Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, hello. I'm here. Zara's here. Oh, I'm here. Hello. Hey, we are dropping into your feed with a little teaser because we think that you, a shameless listener, will definitely be interested in this one. Yeah, our very own Rhiannon Joyce sat down with the incredible businesswoman, Emma Greed. How would people know about Emma Greed, Zars? Co-founder of Skims with Kim Kardashian.
Co-founder of Good American.
Chapter 2: Who is Emma Grede and what are her notable achievements?
She has the podcast Aspire, which I've mentioned many a time now on this show. We've recommended Emma Greed's stuff so much. We are colossal fans. Huge. Huge fan.
So you can imagine how excited we are that Rhi, Rhiannon Joyce, our very own Rhiannon Joyce, sat down with Emigreed to touch on the loneliest part of her career, why she doesn't offer exit interviews for her employees, and why you can't be a people pleaser and a good leader at the same time. Super interesting. We wanted to share a little preview of that episode here on the Shameless Feed.
If you guys like what you hear in this snippet, head over to the Stylish Feed and listen to the full conversation there. We will leave a link in the show notes, but otherwise have a search. I think you'll find it. I reckon you can do it. Let's do it. Enjoy, guys. This is a really good one.
I am in a leadership position at Shameless Media. I have always been drawn to people who share their expertise and their experience in leadership. So in the chapter of leadership, you speak to not offering exit interviews. You said, and I'm gonna quote you here.
I was like, what did I say? I remember. Okay. Because I don't offer exit interviews. And there's a really good, you say what I say first for the listener and then I'll answer you back. And I'll tell you why it's a heavy, heavy and big no for me.
All right. So for our listeners, you said, you're going to get the opportunity to tell me to go fuck myself at the end. Why didn't you tell me six months ago? I want people to tell me the truth in the moment so I bake this into the culture. I well, first of all, I want to hear the why behind that on a deeper level.
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Chapter 3: What leadership insights does Emma Grede share?
And my second question is, I'd love you to share a real life example of when that's happened and that you had to take accountability and responsibility for getting something wrong.
On the exit interview thing specifically, what it means, you know, and honestly, in England, I don't know, 10 years ago when I had a company here, we never did exit interviews because the way that we worked was in, you know, and you know how it works today. You're constantly, you know, in some type of assessment cycle with people.
But I am an in the moment person, meaning I am not waiting until your quarterly or half yearly review. And nor am I waiting for you to finish your employment with me to tell me how God awful it's been. And so if you institute that as the way of doing business, people are going to save themselves up where I'm like, in the moment, I don't have time. Like we need to move on. I need to be
at the end of that meeting, I need the feedback to come in the moment. And I need to be able to give you feedback in the moment for us to have a relationship that is living, breathing, growing and going forward and is productive. Because at the end of the day, we're talking about business here.
This isn't about your romantic relationships and finding the right time to have a difficult conversation with your significant other. This is business. We have an enterprise mentality. What's best for the company is what's best for the for the employer-employee relationship. And that has a sense of immediacy to it.
So yes, I'm not going to sit and wait for you to, you know, save up all the things that you need to tell me. But am I open to feedback and to criticism? I think that that is just a part of the way that I work, but it happens in the moment.
Definitely. Can you give me a real life example of when you have been faced with a situation where you've had to put your hand up and go, oh, I need to be accountable and take responsibility?
It happens. Honestly, it happens so often. What is a good... I'm trying to think of a good example of a time that I've had to do it. I mean, it honestly just happens all the time. I make mistakes. Like, for example, it can happen on a product. You know, it's like... I can decide, oh, I've like, I remember doing like a giant problem for Good American.
You remember when, you know, everything was super stretch for so long and then all the girls started wearing that rigid, you know, vintage style denim. So I transferred everything. I was like, okay guys, like we're going to be like the non-stretch company now. Well, of course, like with a curvy customer, that's really difficult.
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Chapter 4: Why doesn't Emma Grede conduct exit interviews for her employees?
So that's definitely one of my Roman empires. And Riley's wedding, dare I say more? Riley Hemson's wedding. Yeah, in vogue. And lucky for us, Stylish covered both of those stories on their most recent episode. I'm obsessed with this episode. It had every single thing I want to listen to right now.
So if you are also on kind of the beat of wondering what the deal is with AI influencers, particularly this specific controversy and how there are lots of big feelings about it on the internet. Or what's behind Riley's ascension to being like the number one it girl of Australia. Yeah. Listen to Stylish on any good podcast app. Bye.