#149 Sarah Adams - Is the Pentagon Ignoring the Most Dangerous Threat of All?
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What hidden threats does Sarah Adams discuss?
Sarah Adams, willkommen zurück.
Es ist toll, hier zu sein.
dass sie dich nicht genießen, wenn du open source Informationen verteilst und dass du es nicht durch die richtigen Kanäle tust? Was ist das? Also, wir werden darüber nachdenken. Deswegen danke dir, dass du hier rausgeholt hast. Ich wollte das sofort bekommen. Und so werden wir das in drei Tagen ausdrücken. Aber ja, und dann haben wir noch eine ganze Menge anderer Themen zu besprechen. For those of you that don't know, this is your third appearance on the show. We already have a fourth scheduled for later in 2025. But Sarah Adams, co-author of Benghazi, Know Thy Enemy, a Cold Case Investigation. Former CIA officer, Libyan crisis before, during and after the 9-11 attacks. Counterterrorism analyst, targeter for the CIA. Senior advisor on the Select Committee on Benghazi.
NGO official working across multiple conflict zones, including Afghanistan, Ukraine and Sudan. known to be 10% humanitarian, 90% warlord.
That's me.
But hey, I heard you call my, I heard you mention that my new, I just hired this guy, my new head of production. You said he looks like a terrorist. Please don't fucking kill him. I really, really need him here. So if you could just refrain from that, that would be great.
It's dark in here and he walked in. No.
Oh Gott, du hast seine Adresse noch nicht, oder?
Oh, ich könnte ihn am Ende des Tages haben, wenn ich will.
Perfekt, perfekt. Also, lasst uns mit dem Pentagon-Ding anfangen. Ich habe deinen Tweet gelesen und... Let's start with open source information, just for the audience. Can you describe what open source intelligence is?
A lot of people get confused about this. I've even noticed in our past interviews. Our Benghazi investigation, we've collected this entirely ourselves. So we are the ones on the ground getting the information. So it's obviously not classified channels, right? We're not going to foreign militaries. We're not going to the intelligence community and getting this information. So it's... Und wir können es basically sharen mit wem auch immer wir wollen, weil es völlig unbeklagt ist. Aber das verrückte Teil ist, They didn't ask anything about the threat. They didn't say, you know, anything about the sourcing, where we got it from. They didn't show any concern at all for the personnel at the embassy. They just cared that I gave them something.
Well, I don't understand how the Pentagon would not be concerned with the safety of Americans at an American embassy. And the only thing they're concerned about is the information that you're collecting open source.
Exactly, remember, there's DOD personnel. There's 100% DOD personnel at the embassy I'm talking about. So that's the crazy part, right? Instead of just reaching out to me and saying, hey, this is really interesting information, can we work together? We'd love to hear what you have. Come sit down with our team. Let's see how we can get ahead of this threat. They got mad that I gave it to the State Department, which is who you would give a threat to the embassy to.
Can you talk about the actual threat that the Pentagon doesn't seem to think is important?
Yeah, I mean, you know, I've talked previously about Al-Qaeda planning embassy attacks. Obviously, I've talked about their planning an attack in Bamako in Mali. So this is another location in Africa where they're planning the attack. I don't want to give up everyone I know, because, you know, then you get into sourcing. Obviously, everyone I know I will pass to the U.S. government, especially the State Department. So I don't hold on to threats. Aber es ist einfach so, Al-Qaida hat all diese Wälder von Angriffen geplant, okay? Wenn ihr den Oktober 7. Report von NME lernt, wisst ihr, dass das alles mit den Hamas-Angriffen begann, richtig? Das war einer von Al-Qaidas geplanten Angriffen. Und wir können darüber später noch mehr sprechen.
Also haben sie diese Wälder gegen Israel. Und dann haben sie Wälder gegen Europa, Wälder gegen uns, Wälder, um den islamischen Kalifat zu erschaffen, richtig? Also viele der afrikanischen Pläne, die Wälder, die den islamischen Kalifat erschaffen.
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