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This distant planet has wild weather and gemstone clouds

29 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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30.895 - 46.32 Regina Barber

Hey, Joyvers. Regina Barber here. It's time for my favorite monthly episode, our space news segment, Spacing Out with Gina. We're here today with science correspondent, Katie Riddle. Hey, Katie. Hey, Gina. I will say you're going to have to learn a secret handshake by the end of the day. I'm ready.

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46.4 - 47.141 Katia Riddle

I'm ready for it.

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47.542 - 52.951 Regina Barber

And space connoisseur and all things considered host, Scott Detrow. Welcome back, Scott.

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53.151 - 56.937 Scott Detrow

I like space connoisseur. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to hear what you will teach us this week.

56.967 - 66.901 Regina Barber

Yes, I actually did used to teach this stuff for like a dozen years. But Katia, you're actually going to start us off, though, with a story about the furthest planet in our solar system.

67.222 - 86.569 Katia Riddle

Exactly. Which, you know, I grew up learning was Pluto. But unfortunately, it's since been kicked out of the major planet guild. There's a lot of beef, a lot of baggage. I'll be telling you about Neptune today and how one of its moons could help us fill in the gaps of our solar system's origin story. But I promise it'll still be fun.

86.549 - 93.541 Scott Detrow

Can I rattle off the slightly dated mnemonic device? That is a hard word to say that I learned to say all the planets.

93.721 - 93.901 Regina Barber

Do it.

Chapter 2: What recent discoveries have been made about Neptune's moon?

178.574 - 179.135 Scott Detrow

Well, now we know.

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179.395 - 191.092 Katia Riddle

There's been questions about one specifically called Nereid for decades. Researchers have been wondering whether this moon was formed right in Neptune's orbit or if it's an interloper from elsewhere.

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191.313 - 192.915 Scott Detrow

What makes them think that could be the case?

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192.98 - 212.76 Katia Riddle

Well, for starters, Nereid has a really unusual orbit. It's stretched into this elongated oval shape. For years, that highly eccentric orbit led researchers to speculate that it was not formed around Neptune. Moons that are born, so to speak, around a planet tend to travel in a kind of regular circular path.

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212.74 - 224.673 Katia Riddle

But now we're able to look more closely at Nereid's composition and see evidence that despite this weird orbit, it is more consistent with a moon that formed around Neptune than one that was captured from elsewhere.

224.714 - 227.762 Scott Detrow

What is going on with this smooshed orbit shape, though?

227.742 - 240.642 Katia Riddle

Yeah. The idea now is that it was shoved into this unusual orbit by another moon called Triton at an earlier point. Triton is big. It's about eight times bigger than Nereid. And it turned out it's kind of a bully.

241.102 - 246.831 Regina Barber

I actually kind of like Triton. But OK. But when you have 16 moons, things are going to be very competitive.

246.811 - 260.733 Katia Riddle

Yeah, exactly. Our moon is lucky. It doesn't have to compete for real estate around Earth. I talked to Matthew Belyakov from the California Institute of Technology. He's the lead researcher on a new paper out about this in the journal Science Advances.

Chapter 3: How does Nereid's unusual orbit challenge our understanding of moons?

583.62 - 603.703 Regina Barber

This episode was produced by Arun Nair and Kai McNamee. It was edited by Christopher Intagliata, Amina Khan, and our showrunner, Rebecca Ramirez. Kadia, myself, and Tyler Jones checked the facts. Jimmy Keeley and Ted Meanbane were the audio engineers. I'm Regina Barber. Thank you for listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR. See you Monday.

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