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Sky Sports Premier League Podcast

Drama on Derby Day

02 Dec 2018

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Chapter 1: What were the highlights of the Super Sunday derby matches?

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Well, we have seen the most extraordinary end to what has been an incredible derby day on Super Sunday. Virgil van Dijk turned away in disgust after that volley and it ended up via Jordan Pickford in the crossbar in the back of the net after Divock Origi had come off the bench to score for the first time since May 2017. Jurgen Klopp's celebrations took him to the centre circle.

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Let's get reaction from Divock Origi. And from Virgil van Dijk, who played his part in that goal as well. And both of them speaking to Patrick Davison. Guys, well played.

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46.342 - 57.959 Ruben Loftus-Cheek

Divock, you're the hero, but have you quite got your head round what's just happened to you? It's a special moment. I think I'm enjoying the moment. It's a special one for the club and for the city, so I'm very happy for that.

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Virgil, it was all about the assist, wasn't it? Lovely floated ball in there. Fantastic. No off. Obviously, in the end, it's such a great feeling to win this game. We had big chances today. They were a good side today, but we were better. And, yeah, what I said, we're very happy that we kept a clean sheet, but won, obviously, through Div's goal, so I'm very happy.

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Because it's come so late and it was such a bizarre goal, does that make the feeling all the sweeter? It does. I think last-minute goals are always a bit special and it was a tough game. I think it was a good game today and I think we deserved the win and I'm glad we did. Divock, I think when Virgil sliced it up into the air, he turned away in disgust, but you didn't give it up.

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Why did you know that something might happen there? I think it's just instinct.

112.912 - 133.434 Ruben Loftus-Cheek

The first chance I had, I knew that there were going to be some balls like this in the 16, open balls, so I just tried to be sharp. And in the end, Virg gave me a nice assist and I could head it in, so I was happy. Did you think your days of being a Liverpool hero were done? I think I just believed in myself. It wasn't easy. In football, those moments make you stronger.

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And for me, I just try to enjoy the game. And today, again, whenever I come in, I always said that I would try and help the team. And I'm happy that we could do it in this way today.

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And Virgil, all the more important because of that pace City are setting at the moment. You can't afford drop points, can you? We don't need to look at City. City are doing an amazing job, but we need to look at ourselves. We have a lot of tough games coming up and today was very tough, but we won it and we just need to keep going, keep progressing, keep improving as a team.

Chapter 2: How did Divock Origi become the hero of the Merseyside derby?

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As you said when you walked into this interview room, still a bit annoyed with him for the miss as well? Now I'm fine, though. You got over it? Exactly, yeah. We had some big chances today, In the end, it doesn't really matter anymore. We won. So I'm very happy. Well done. Well done, David. Good.

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The fine lines of football, especially in the Derby, the ecstasy and joy of all the Liverpool fans, the misery of the Evertonians who thought they'd come here and managed to get at least a point. David, I'll come to you in a moment. Have you ever seen such a bizarre goal and such a bizarre finish to a game, Graham? No, no, nothing comes to mind immediately, but it was strange.

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It really was strange. I mean, the goalie comes out, Trent Alexander, not a great ball in, but... Just head it back where it has come from. Van Dijk turns away. The way Van Dijk has struck the ball, the ball is spinning, it wants to come back into play. If it had hit the bar, it would have come back into play. The goalkeeper, you would have to ask him what his intentions are.

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Van Dijk slices it up, the ball is spinning, it wants to come back into play. When I look at it there, can he try to catch it? Just poke it away.

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Give a corner.

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I think in his mind, I'm going to catch this. I don't want to give a corner away at this time. So that's the mistake. Origi deserves a lot of credit, by the way. But in terms of the goalkeeper, we'll come on to Origi, but in terms of the goalkeeper, we'll come to you on this, David. He should have palmed it over the bar, should he, rather than trying to catch it or leave it?

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I think, like Graham says, I think Jordan's thinking there, I don't want to give away a corner, I don't want to give them another opportunity. He thinks he can catch it. With hindsight, he'll look back and say it's the wrong decision, but I think that's his train of thought at the time.

Chapter 3: What were Jurgen Klopp's reactions to the dramatic finish?

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Look at this from Origi. He runs away and then goes and grabs the ball. Obviously he thinks they're a goal down or something. I wonder almost if Jordan has tried to feel like he can catch it and as he's going to catch it, he's then caught his hand on the crossbar and it's knocked it out of his hands. You know, so I think that's the major problem.

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And then I will also say that Origi has done an ever so well. Keep your eye on Origi. He's in the middle of the pitch, 18-yard line there. He's the only one really to follow it in. Because I think the keeper thinks he's going to catch it and then the bar knocks it out of his hands. Look at it here. He's trying to catch it. It's a monumental mistake.

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I have to be honest, I was obviously up in the gantry and he looked erratic all game today, Jordan Pickford. He never really looked comfortable. He's such an honest boy, he'll probably come out and explain what he tried to do. That's the sort of character he is, but that's a big moment. Definitely the ball spinning.

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If he doesn't touch this ball and it's the top of the crossbar, I think that's spinning back into play anyway. Because the way Van Dijk... He never takes his eyes off it for a second. I think it even hits him on the shoulder. It was calamity. I want to come back for Divock Origi, who hasn't been involved here at all since August of 2017, to suddenly have that introduction.

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I think that's the third time he's scored in a Merseyside derby. Unbelievable. I mean, I have to be honest, I was wondering where he'd been, where he's gone, where was he. What an impact. I mean, it was... As I was coming back, I'd missed that he'd even come onto the pitch. So I got back in here and I've seen that. It was absolutely incredible. And that's what you want.

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Because if you're looking at a game, you've got Salah and Firmino on the bench looking very sorry for themselves. This is going to end up in a draw, not a great result for Liverpool. And then all of a sudden, it's mental. It just goes crazy. What about Jordan Pickford today then, David? What did you think of his performance? I think he did okay. I think his kicking was good.

Chapter 4: What mistakes did Jordan Pickford make during the match?

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Other than if that hadn't happened, I don't think we'd have been talking about it. I think in general, Everton played really well in the game. All of a sudden, in one mad moment, it's gone from being a really good, solid performance and a decent result to being what it has become. I think we picked out his worst moments here, it's fair to say. He's made a couple of fantastic saves too. Shaqiri.

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Absolutely. Listen, he's a good goalkeeper, but that's just one that will haunt him. But he seems to be the sort of character that will brush it off as quickly as he can. Even there, he's very honest that he's holding his hands up. A nightmare situation. And Everton didn't deserve that because they played so well. Go on, Graham. No, it's hard on him.

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I mean, we highlighted he sliced one early on and then one later. He's kicking as his strength. I think he is a very, very good goalkeeper. And he'll look back on that and learn from it. He's only a baby in goalkeeping terms. He will learn from it. But that's hard. I think it's harsh on Everton. I think a draw would have been a fair result. OK, Liverpool had more of the ball.

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Liverpool had more of the chances. But, you know, coming to Anfield at this time, the way Liverpool are, it's a hard place to dig a result out. They must have thought they had done it. They must have thought they'd done the hard work. And that was just a bread and butter thing for the goalkeeper to deal with. And he will have sleepless nights over that, especially tonight.

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Chapter 5: How did Everton's performance compare to previous derbies?

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And for Liverpool, after what was a really tough night in Paris, it looked like it was going to be a frustration of two drop points here. And that perhaps explains the reaction of Jurgen Klopp. I don't think I've ever seen that before. Perhaps it was because Alisson had bought a few yards on the free kick at the end. The ball's got to be centred again, hasn't it?

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The whistle's not gone then, has it? Diego Simeone, I think he did that in the Champions League. Amazing. Well, Jürgen Klopp is clearly a happy man with that victory. And he's giving his reaction to Patrick Davison. Jürgen, is it fair to say you couldn't contain yourself when that goal went in?

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I have to apologise immediately, I did it directly after the game to Marco Silva, because I didn't want to be disrespectful, I couldn't stop myself, it happened, and I don't know how old I have to be. I think it will never happen again, but the game was the game we expected.

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Unbelievably intense, unbelievably hard for both teams, both teams had chances, both goalkeepers played an outstanding performance, Weird goal, I would say. I can imagine all the disappointment of Everton, of course, in a situation like that. But we got it and we take it, so it's a brilliant night. When you see the ball go in, can you just...

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Tell us what your emotions are, how do you feel when that happens? No, if I could describe it then probably I could control it and I wouldn't run it. The first time we had a few situations, a similar situation when we scored late, but just today because of the intensity, I don't want to look for excuses, so it should not happen, but I cannot hide it, obviously it happened.

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So that's how it is, and I'm not sure what the FA has to do in a situation like that, but I have to wait for it obviously. Was it deliberate that you ran to Alisson, was it because he was one of your heroes today? No, the plan was not to run, only when I nearly stopped I was close to Alisson, that was actually how it happened. All good, he was surprised, you should have seen his eyes.

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So that's now not the story of the game, it was only the last situation in the game pretty much. We delivered an unbelievable fight, the clearest fight since we played Everton. Usually it was a bit niggly here and stuff like that, a few fouls too much.

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Today both teams tried really to play football and sometimes to make a foul, that's how it is, because the other team is pretty good, but no harsh things. The game I expected, they are really good.

Chapter 6: What tactical changes did Arsenal make in the North London derby?

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We tried to control the game, each pass you give away they have counter-attacks, they are really good in that. I thought that our direction from first to second, The direction of the game was really good, we tried to come in behind, we had Bobby and Shaq in between. We didn't play that exactly like that, not too often so far, so that means we had to adjust a little bit to it.

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But we had our moments, we had brilliant chances after good football, one-twos around the box, Sadio completely free, the counter-press was really good. That's it in the end, stay in the game until the end. I think everybody saw we wanted to win the game still, and it's such a nice story that Devorah Origi can score that goal, this horrible injury which he got from another game in Funes Mori.

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had that harsh tackle and got the red card for it. So that was a big break in his career, and now he's back full fit and come in today and can finish that book now, it's really cool. Did you actually see the ball go in, you didn't turn away when Virgil van Dijk sliced it up in the air? No, actually for me the situation was finished when the ball left his foot. You thought the game was done?

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Yeah, then I saw that the ball was spinning, and it was a really unthankful ball for the goalie, so it was spinning, the crossbar was there, that was luck of course, that it's exactly there, Pickford played an outstanding game, but in that situation what can you do? And we were there, we were there, and Div and I think Daniel was around, can make the goal, it was no foul and that's good.

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And are these wins more important because of the pace being set at the top of the Premier League by yourselves but by Man City as well? You feel like points can't be dropped? We know that anyway, but you have to think about it, if you drop points it's how it is, you know that.

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I think today nobody thought about the situation in the table or whatever, we only wanted to win that game, you saw that from the first until the last second, the boys in a lot of parts of the game was our best game for a while, really intensity-wise it was like PSG, like Chelsea, it was really good, it started like this, it was good, the high pressure was really good,

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I think Evan is really good in that, in a playing build-up, but we killed it a bit, then they had to shoot a few long balls, dangerous as well but not as much, so that was really good how we started the game. This Everton team has really quality, and to outplay them is really not easy, but we still had the situation, and they had that.

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We defended with big passion, I still don't know how the ball was not in. After probably world-class Alisson saved first, and then who got it off the line, was it Joe Gomez? So everybody thought, oh, goal, and then there was a decisive leg. A derby like it should be, high intensity, a proper fight, and, of course, from our point of view, Liverpool wins. Well done, Jurgen. Thank you very much.

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And if you ever wondered about the emotions of football, That's what it can do to you. Did you ever have a moment like that, Graham, on the touchline?

Chapter 7: How did Chelsea perform against Fulham in the West London derby?

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Yeah, yeah, luckily enough. Yeah, that's how it gets you. Your head is in a different place. You want to share it with your players. You certainly did today. I mean, he's looking at the game... be an eye of only drawn and then you end up with a win against, well, in very strange circumstances. So he would have been in a very different place where he is normally.

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He thought the game was done, didn't he? And Everton must have thought the game was done as well when Virgil van Dijk hit that volley. It did, yeah. And I think, you know, that is the emotion of the game. If Everton had scored that goal in the fourth-minute energy of the time, we'd expect our manager to be on the pitch as well. So the emotion is the game. That's fine. That's how it goes.

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And you did thought the game was over. So you can see the surprise and the elation there. But it was great he came out and apologised. That's how it should be. You know, emotion does strange things to you. Did you apologise when you put a flag in the centre circle? That was very... You keep mentioning it. That was very different circumstances.

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Jamie, do you think in some ways the... I want to go back to that. The strangeness of the goal, the lateness of the goal. One or two problems for Liverpool. Yeah, I think so. And Jurgen Klopp was very buoyant about his team's performance there. I wasn't quite so much. I watched them at times last year when they were breathtaking here, the front three. Firmino is having a difficult moment.

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You can't deny that. He's a fantastic talent. He'll come through it. But at the moment, the way that he plays and what he did last year was so important, and early in the season. And the balance of Salah playing up front, He's so good he can play anywhere, but for me, when I watched Liverpool at their best last season, the three when Salah was wide just seems to work better. In midfield...

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Did they get enough quality? Do they need that little bit of extra quality in midfield? A little bit like what you had today for Everton. And Andre Gomez, who bossed the game. I don't think he did that well enough today, Liverpool. But you know what? He can't always play well. But it was about three points today. Derby matches are so difficult.

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You get those three points in the bag and you'll almost forget about that one. But I think going forward, there's still a few questions about how they play and how their formation works. Yeah, I think it's very hard to be critical of Liverpool's form in the Premier League, going for a Brokner record or going for another record. But they're not firing all cylinders.

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I think a lot of the problems come from midfield. I think if you go back to... the summer. He signed two midfield players. He wanted a third one, Fakir from Lyon. I'm not sure if Fabinho and Keita are an upgrade on what he's already got. And I think last year, you know, the midfield and Milner, Wijnaldum,

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Henderson and we're winning early and getting it forward early and those three strikers are off raiding and causing havoc whoever they played and now it's a little bit more pedestrian they're winning it and it's an extra touch an extra pass I think they've got to get back to that getting into that front three as quick as they possibly can and if they can do that then they are firing on all cylinders but right now for me um

Chapter 8: What are the implications of these derby results for the teams involved?

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They're not where they were last year. And the one game that really, really sticks out in my mind was the Red Star-Belgrade game away. They got out Liverpool in that game. You know, they got pushed aside by a very ordinary team. Got away with it today, perhaps. In fact, Andre Gomez was man of the match. And, David, I want to hear from you on him in just a moment.

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We'll get to a break, though, because Marco Silva, hopefully, will be ready to speak to us at the other side of it. Really frustrating day for them, but it is. At the end of it, 19 years and counting for Everton to end their miserable run here at Anfield. Do stay with us.

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1069.875 - 1085.788 Jamie Carragher

It came out to Van Dijk. It's actually... It's led to a redo. That's absolutely amazing. Look at Jurgen Klopp! The daftest derby goal of all time, and it's won the day for Liverpool.

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Ah, the excitement in Jamie Carragher's voice. We've given him a blanket and a cup of hot sweet tea to calm him down. He'll be joining us very shortly. The joy for Liverpool, the despair for Everton to lose a game like that in the final few seconds after such a terrific performance. Marco Silva's reaction now with Patrick Davison.

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Marco, what on earth do you say to players after a performance like that, but also losing in that way?

1114.363 - 1143.139 Marco Silva

First, they didn't deserve it. I'm proud of them as well because of course the main thing in football is always the result, but I told them and like we started the game all together, we finalised the game all together. I'm sure our fans felt the same. I was different in this derby than some of what they saw in the last few seasons as well.

1143.66 - 1171.285 Marco Silva

I was different because my players work really hard and they show on the pitch our quality as well. Like we promised, like I told you before the match, what is our goal? To come here, to challenge them, to play. It was a tough game. Really tough game, but for both, it's a good sign when the game is tough for both. Respect them, a lot of quality, high intensity they put always on the pitch.

1171.946 - 1190.673 Marco Silva

They started better than us, we started to balance the match during the first half. I talked, and if I can remember, the first two big shunts was for us. Big shunt to me, I think, was the first. and after one more they had as well during the first half.

1191.214 - 1211.539 Marco Silva

In the second half we were the better team on the pitch, we started to control the match, and after the 65-70 minutes we started with the game under control. They had one chance in the counter-attack with a big chance to money as well. But I think, to be honest, we didn't deserve the result. The draw possible will be... the fair result.

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