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FNF Podcast - Chelsea v Liverpool

16 Sep 2016

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Chapter 1: How did Liverpool secure their 2-1 victory over Chelsea?

6.224 - 32.873 Commentator

Around the back, Dejan Lovren, not picked up at all, it still needed some finishing, but he finished it splendidly. It's a decent try, it's more than that for Jordan Henderson, it's a sumptuous goal. Here's Matic, he's done very well, he picks someone out now, he hands Diego Costa, his hot streak continues.

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34.034 - 48.028 Graeme Souness

Well, the score finished 2-1 to Liverpool, and if the first half was the Liverpool show, Chelsea certainly woke up in the second half. Let's see what the match stats show us across the 90 minutes. Well, Liverpool had four shots on target, and four of those came in the first half.

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48.048 - 67.787 Graeme Souness

They also ran seven kilometres further than Chelsea, and even though Liverpool won, they had the lowest season touches in the box for themselves. We can see there that Chelsea actually have more possession, more passing accuracy, Yet one goal to Liverpool's two.

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70.737 - 73.921 Host

Well, you look at the statistics there and it sounds very close, doesn't it?

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73.941 - 95.666 Thierry Henry

But actually, Thierry, Liverpool dominated the great majority of the game, didn't they? Well, sometimes the stats don't tell you a story. I think that Chelsea tried in the second half to have a go for 15 minutes. Other than that, I think Liverpool managed the game better than what we saw in some games before. But was it enough from Chelsea to see how great Liverpool were defensively?

95.686 - 109.707 Thierry Henry

I don't know, but you have to give Liverpool a lot of credit They came at Stamford Bridge to play the way they played, with passion and desire. They were passing the ball on the ground, making them run in the first half, and they had an opportunity in the second half after, I think, 300 passes together.

110.108 - 115.357 Thierry Henry

If Divock Origi scores that goal, it would have been an amazing goal, but they deserved to win at the end of the very day.

116.699 - 134.547 Host

Did Chelsea, Jamie, did they intentionally sit back in that first 20, 25 minutes? And if so, did that cost them the game, ultimately? When you look at a game like that, you don't know how the managers sent them out. Now, is that Liverpool's great player, I think Gary Neville mentioned it in commentary, forcing Chelsea back, or is that Chelsea being passive, sitting off?

135.088 - 154.923 Host

Now, I go back to the manager's interview with Thierry before the game, and he was saying, this is a bad time to play Liverpool. Why? Chelsea are flying as well, Chelsea are above them in the league, they're at home, I don't understand this, it's a bad time to play Liverpool. Yes, they've had a few good results... But not as good as Chelsea. Chelsea are at home.

Chapter 2: What were the standout moments from the first half of the match?

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That's the only thing I can think of. It was transformed in the second half because, of course, the 2-0 down, they have to go for the game. But what you saw second half is what we expected for 90 minutes. A game from end to end, Chelsea being more on top and Liverpool trying to play counter-attack. OK, we'll come back to you.

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I'm delighted to say that we're being joined live from Stamford Bridge now by the Liverpool manager, Jürgen Klopp.

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Chapter 3: What match statistics highlight Liverpool's performance?

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Jürgen, congratulations. How satisfying was that?

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201.637 - 221.508 Jürgen Klopp

It was satisfying of course, especially the first half. It was brilliant, eh? Starting the game from the first second we were there, we had unbelievably good movements in our playing side. Everybody who ever played against Chelsea in all times knows that it's really difficult to play against them. They were organised, especially with Antonio Conte, they were really good organised.

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222.109 - 244.924 Jürgen Klopp

We created a space, we found them, we played in them, But we didn't score the goals in these moments, so we were quick in mind after set pieces, we did really, really well. We deserved a lead, I would say, for half-time. Before half-time we had these moments when Chelsea came a little bit better in the game, it was only because we stopped playing football,

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244.904 - 262.187 Jürgen Klopp

We need to get used to it, to be in the lead against a really strong side, and we need to learn how we can manage the game then, with still a lot of power in our legs, with 100 per cent concentration, because that's different to the second half,

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262.167 - 290.503 Jürgen Klopp

In the second half he did it then after they scored a goal really well, but differently, it was deeper, it was really passionate defending, all that stuff, and everybody who saw until now the Chelsea games how often they scored in the last few seconds with their very direct style, they can really say, OK, Liverpool did not too bad because I cannot remember a lot of chances in this moment, the biggest was then Divock Origi, so it could have been 3-1, but 2-1 I'm completely fine with.

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Everyone's had their say, haven't they, about your defence during the course of this season, so how pleased were you with the resilience that they showed in the last 25 minutes or so? How pleased, Jürgen, were you with the resilience your defence showed in the last 25 minutes or so once Chelsea had got the goal back? Sorry, sorry, sorry, Jürgen. We've lost the feed.

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Oh, well, obviously, we've lost Jürgen Klopp at the moment. If you stay there... He can't tell us just how pleased he was at the moment, but I can tell he's pretty pleased. Jeff Shreeds is going to ask him precisely the same question right now.

324.638 - 342.269 Jürgen Klopp

Start, the middle and the finish. But of course we had a few moments where we were not so good, but that's normal. They are too strong to have them the whole game. or be perfectly organised that they have absolutely no space to play, that's not possible, so for that they are too strong. But the beginning was brilliant, brilliant from my side.

343.35 - 365.069 Jürgen Klopp

We played football like hell, it was really nice to watch, and we scored the goals in other moments, quick in mind, after set-pieces, which we didn't do too often, but it was wonderful. What can I say? And then the second half, of course, it's a little bit more difficult, with less power, it's getting intense.

Chapter 4: How did Chelsea respond in the second half against Liverpool?

457.574 - 476.745 Jürgen Klopp

He's such a hard worker and he's still a young lad with a lot of pressure on his shoulders and we try everything to help him to learn to handle it and it's getting better and better and better. I don't think he thought before the season that he can be playing a six, of course he can, good footballers can nearly play everything.

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478.309 - 501.684 Jürgen Klopp

That's the thing tonight, we played without Amre, without Roberto, without a lot of players which are not available at the moment. Not really injured, but on the way back, so that's good, and for this then Hendo playing different positions is very important. He did well, and he gets the benefit of all the hard work in the last few weeks with a wonderful, wonderful striker.

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501.704 - 509.878 Jürgen Klopp

I'm pretty sure it will be difficult to score a nicer one this month, so we'll see. Jürgen, thank you. Thank you very much.

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510.618 - 522.008 Graeme Souness

Well, Jürgen's certainly happy with that. Graeme, you said before the match that Liverpool can't win the league. If you look at their first five games, they've played Arsenal, Tottenham, Leicester, now Chelsea. They've only lost to Burnley. Are you sure?

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522.168 - 540.625 Jamie Carragher

Well, no, I'm not sure. You can never be sure five games in, but I wouldn't get... And he won't, and no professional would get carried away with just that performance tonight. Liverpool, for half an hour, were fabulous. And then, ironically, just when Chelsea started to get a foothold in the game, Jordan Henderson scores his super goal. And then in the second half...

540.908 - 559.137 Jamie Carragher

Chelsea come in to get their goal back and you expect a real push by Chelsea and it didn't happen. You'd have to see Liverpool at that time, and my fear was Liverpool had used that much energy up in that first hour, first 70 minutes. They were going to wilt, but they didn't. They regrouped and they withstood the challenge that Chelsea threw at them. And you have to say...

559.117 - 567.992 Jamie Carragher

Were they winners tonight? I don't think I said they couldn't win the league. I said they'd have to improve defensively in order to win the league. And I still say that.

568.012 - 587.123 Jamie Carragher

I think, you know, with the make-up of the midfield, which is very much attack-minded and sometimes leaving Jordan Henderson isolated, I think when we show you Chelsea's goal tonight, Adam Lallana exaggerates the point that he's not really got a defensive head on because that's how they concede the goal tonight. He was the biggest culprit.

587.463 - 599.502 Jamie Carragher

But overall, Liverpool must be thrilled with what they've done tonight and thrilled with going to North London twice and digging really good results out and good performances. But I think if you're a Liverpool supporter,

Chapter 5: Did Chelsea's tactics contribute to their defeat?

600.072 - 617.262 Jamie Carragher

You have to get used to that type of football. He's not going to play any other way. That's the way he sees football and it makes for entertaining stuff. But they will be vulnerable because his team is loaded up to go forward. They've got forward-thinking players, attacking midfield players. But when the game's not going for you, they will be a wee bit vulnerable.

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617.502 - 619.245 Jamie Carragher

There's a lot of emphasis then on the back four.

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619.225 - 635.488 Host

But, I mean, was that the best that their back four have played this season? They were resilient, weren't they, when Chelsea came at them? They were. I mean, like Graeme, you're sitting here when the goal goes in, you fear, and then you think you go back to the Arsenal game, they concede lots of goals, and they're going to cave in at the back.

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635.988 - 647.865 Host

And I think there's promising signs with the two centre-backs. It's only the second game. I think they look very solid at Tottenham. Solid again tonight. You think they're up against maybe the most informed striker, along with Aguero.

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in the Premier League, and I think in Matip, I think for a couple of games, it's early days, I think Lovren is his number one choice at centre-back since he's come in, and I think there's signs there of a partnership, and long may that continue, because for too long now, you know, Brendan Rodgers, under Jurgen Klopp now, as Graeme said, concede too many goals, but that has to stop.

668.247 - 683.908 Host

Just because you're good going forward doesn't mean you should be poor defensively. That shouldn't just happen. Some of the goals they concede are out of nothing. I think Gary mentioned it on commentary. There's no pressure coming in. Out of nothing, a goal goes in. It shouldn't happen. You've got to cut that out because it will cost them.

684.669 - 691.178 Host

But with those two, if they can stay together and run 10 or 15 games, you can build from that a goalkeeper and two centre-backs.

691.198 - 695.284 Graeme Souness

Well, we've got more reaction for you now. Liverpool's two goalscorers are with Geoff Shreves.

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Dajian, Jordan, you first of all. I think the smile will settle, but tell us, just what sort of victory is that?

Chapter 6: What did Jürgen Klopp say about Liverpool's resilience?

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Everyone's watching the ball. You see Oscar tight there. Kante with his man. And you see this now in here. I mean, the only way to describe that, they're virtually inside Swansea players' boots, and that's how you defend. That's when you talk about defending, maybe with young players, senior players, whoever it may be, get inside the boots. That's how tight you have to be.

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918.435 - 937.93 Host

And if we just look at the difference now with... That ball comes in. You just see the difference now with this. Lethargic. People not watching. Lack of intensity. We spoke before the game about Conte. The type of manager he is. I'm sure he'll be tearing his hair out when he looks at this in the morning. He goes through it with the players.

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939.665 - 958.868 Host

There may be something in the fact that a certain centre-back's not playing. People are telling me his legs have gone. But situations like that, leadership, organisation, putting people where they should be, keeping people on their toes. But let's not forget the quality here of Liverpool. Philip Coutinho, another fantastic assist for him. And for a centre-back... That's a great finish.

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958.888 - 966.718 Host

I thought I was a decent centre-back, but I couldn't do that. I mean, Jordan Henderson, I think, got man of the match there. He ran him very close.

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971.153 - 1001.363 Thierry Henry

Let's see the second goal. I mean, we touched base with that. Let me run it really slow. You see Adam Leylaina over there bringing Kante with him. But I want to bring your attention to this man here. He's not even looking at the situation. First and foremost, N'Golo Kante should never let Lallana go behind him there, but Gary Cahill is sleeping.

1002.706 - 1015.568 Jamie Carragher

Yeah. You see, what is Kante thinking? He is meant to be a defensive midfielder. It's only thought there should be, I've got him in the corner, let's keep him in the corner. Instead, his thinking is, I'm going to win this ball. It totally gets the wrong side of Adam Lallana.

1015.588 - 1023.578 Thierry Henry

The clearance is also shocking, but what... I think, Jamie, he must have seen you and the piece that you did at Melwood with Mane before.

1023.598 - 1043.422 Host

He was watching from the side. I forgot to mention that at the beginning. But I must say this now. I'm delighted for Jordan Henderson. Jordan Henderson splits opinion between Liverpool fans. There's no doubt about that. He gets a lot of criticism. I think the fact he wears the captain's armband. I'm not sure who the supporters want as captain, if it's not Jordan. But he does.

1043.962 - 1060.813 Host

And there's question marks. I think Jürgen Klopp... I spoke about that before, about him playing the number six position, whether he's suited to that. I think he can do it. I don't think it's his best position. I think he's better in one of those wider positions, tucked in, because he's got so much energy. But I'm pleased for him and...

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