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Sky Sports Premier League Podcast

Super Sunday Podcast - 24th January

24 Jan 2016

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Chapter 1: What happened in the Chelsea vs Arsenal match?

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And yet more pain for Arsenal at the hands of Chelsea, who remain unbeaten under Gus Hiddink and unbeaten in nine since 2011 against Arsenal. He'll have enjoyed that. And how damaging will that be for the Gunners' title hopes? What a weekend it has been for Leicester. So Chelsea beating Arsenal by a goal to nil at the Emirates earlier on today. Everton beaten at Goodison. Swansea the winners.

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Big result for them down the bottom of the table. You can see all the action football special tonight, 10.30, Sky Sports 2. It's been a really bad weekend this for the bottom three. Villa on 13, Sunderland 19, Newcastle 21, then it's Norwich dropping on 23, Bournemouth are 16, Swansea climb, they're now four clear of danger up to 15th, Chelsea climb to 13th on 28 points.

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In the top half of the table, confirmation that Arsenal, as Martin said, who started the weekend top of the table, finish it in third.

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Chapter 2: How does Chelsea's victory impact Arsenal's title hopes?

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Level on points with Manchester City. Leicester are three points clear at the top of the Premier League table. Incredible. Well done, Cesc. John, what's the significance of that result for you guys?

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77.027 - 89.323 John Terry

Yeah, big three points. Gets us a little bit up the league, but well needed today. We've drawn too many games of late and we had to come in and obviously pick up three points, which we've done, so delighted with how we played and obviously the win.

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Cesc, in many ways, the turning point was the sending off, but do you feel Chelsea were in control even before that? Yeah, I think so. I think so. 11 against 11, I think we were on top basically all the time. They did have a chance, and after that they had the chance with Flamini just before the half-time.

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But for the first 20, 25 minutes, I don't know exactly when the send-off was, but I thought we were very, very good. John, it's often said it's hard against 10, so do you have to adjust psychologically?

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118.498 - 124.445 John Terry

Yeah, well, mentally we were saying, you know, for the first 20 minutes we was probably on top and dominating the game, pressing them higher up the pitch.

Chapter 3: What were the key moments in the Everton vs Swansea match?

124.465 - 137.95 John Terry

And as soon as they got the man sent off, we kind of sat back and kind of was happy with the result. So second half, we kind of aimed to try and push up, press them a little bit higher and win the ball back. which we've done at times, but not enough. But listen, delighted with the win to come here.

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137.97 - 143.927 John Terry

They're a very good side and obviously throughout the game they're going to have chances, but I thought we dealt with it very well today. Cesc, not for the first time.

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Do you think you should have had a penalty? I don't know. In my opinion, yes, but I don't know. The referee said no.

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152.13 - 165.744 Cesc Fàbregas

What can I do? It's not the first time, it's not the second, it's not the third that they denied me a penalty, so I'm not surprised anymore. Really? Yes, really. Counting last year, yes. Why do you think that is? I'm just saying. I don't know why, but it's maybe a coincidence.

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What would you say about your form right now? A lot has been said about it so far this season. Are you back to your old self? I'm nearly there. I think I'm feeling very sharp. I think my brain is much quicker than maybe the last few months. I struggled for a little bit. I don't know really why, but the sharpness is back.

Chapter 4: How did Chelsea's performance compare to last season?

190.465 - 202.601 Cesc Fàbregas

I feel that under pressure I'm much more in control, I'm not shaky, I'm not under pressure, but of course my teammates made it always easier for me.

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203.021 - 207.647 Francesco Guidolin

But definitely I think in the last year probably I'm in the best form right now, yes.

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John, 14 points of fourth place, it looks a long way, is it doable?

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213.685 - 231.157 John Terry

I think the results, everyone's kind of beaten everyone still, and it's surprising every weekend you're looking at results thinking, yeah, they're going to go there and easily win the game. It's not, it's a tough league this year. If we can put a good run of games together and continue playing like we have done and show the fighting spirit we have done the last few weeks, we've got a good chance.

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231.338 - 244.284 John Terry

We're not writing anything off, we're still in the Champions League. and we'll keep fighting in the league until there's no points to play for. Was that more like the Chelsea of old today? I think so. I think the possession, as Seth said, not only him, I thought the whole team.

244.785 - 254.526 John Terry

When you've got players like him and Obi and Matic wanting the ball in difficult situations, it makes the game a lot easier. They want it always to feet and getting the ball down and playing. I thought we'd done that very well.

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OK, well, Cesc picked up the Barclays man of the match today. Perhaps you do the honours, please, John. Well done, mate. Brilliant. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you both. Thank you. Bye-bye, season. Fabrikas, the man of the match. He had more touches, he had more passes, tackles as well than any other player on the pitch today. Well, look at that penalty shout he referred to in a moment.

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Let's talk Chelsea, though, first, before we talk about Arsenal's title chances after that. How far off the Chelsea of last season, their best in the start of the season, was that Chelsea side today? There was glimpses that Chelsea were... the champions we saw last year. I thought Arsenal were really good in the second half considering down to 10 men. Chelsea started the game really well.

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Obviously, Arsenal going down to 10 men had a major play on what happened. But I think You don't become a bad player overnight. This is a group of players that were outstanding last year. And for whatever reasons, it's not worked for them this year. Changing a manager, a new manager comes in. I'd said earlier before the game, I thought Gus Hinnick would have got a bigger response than he's had.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of the sending off for Arsenal?

379.106 - 390.98 Graeme Souness

I think today is the first sort of big result under the new manager really, but I think top four is too far away in terms of the point difference and also the quality of football and the way they're playing.

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391 - 411.737 Jamie Redknapp

I think that today playing against 10 men became handy for them. I just think that to go back to the Chelsea of old time, It was back in the days, even last year, they would have won that game 2, 3, 4, or something 1, or maybe 0. They didn't look like they wanted to go forward, they wanted to secure the 1-0. Yes, you are the Emirates away from home.

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411.777 - 427.226 Jamie Redknapp

Yes, Arsenal can pass the ball well against, although they were playing with 10 men. They played way better in the second half, Arsenal, that has to be said. But the Chelsea of before... let's say, the one of last year. But in the past, they played within themselves, wasn't that what we saw today? They were just doing what they had to do.

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427.486 - 438.987 Jamie Redknapp

They did what they had to do and also remember that Arsenal were playing with 10 men. No excuses there. That doesn't mean it's not always easy to play against 10 men. Arsenal suddenly was, like John Terry said, staying at the back, trying to counter them.

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438.967 - 456.369 Jamie Redknapp

But the Chelsea that I know from last year and the years before would have ended up, if they were on tune and confident, winning that game 2-3-0. They didn't. You can see that they're still a bit fragile, for my liking. Let's see if they can go on the run and win a game back-to-back this season, first and foremost, before talking about being in the top four.

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And you started the day by saying you wanted to see a dominant Arsenal performance today, physically, mentally, the lot. It's not what you've seen.

463.658 - 472.116 Jamie Redknapp

How damaging will this be? Well, it's always the same thing. Always big expectation when Arsenal play Chelsea. Can they finally beat them? Can they?

Chapter 6: What did the players say about their performance after the match?

472.697 - 497.222 Jamie Redknapp

Whatever we mentioned before the game. And again, it's Diego Costa and Chelsea having the last laugh. Difficult to point things after they stand enough because it's always going to be difficult. But they didn't start the game well enough to be able to be on top of it. So... Are we going to talk about the same thing? Is it going to have a massive impact on the title?

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497.928 - 520.182 Jamie Redknapp

Yes, in a way, because you're still going to beat Chelsea, but on the other side, no one is really capitalising on taking advantage of mistakes from other teams. Now, Tottenham suddenly, coming from nowhere, is two points behind Arsenal. And nobody's been talking about them really since, well, a bit, but not so much about winning the title. No, they are well in it.

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520.462 - 527.436 Jamie Redknapp

And Jamie said it before, it's a four race. for Tim Rice now for the title. We'll talk more about that in a moment.

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Let's go back and see the decisive moments in the game. You go first this time, Jamie. The sending off, so important in this.

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534.231 - 549.205 Graeme Souness

You think it's a definite red, don't you? I think it's a definite red. This is a major weak point of the Arsenal team, whether they're going to win the title or not, or be successful. Get an after-meter, Saka. Bellerin is a full-back who likes to go forward, and when he gets exposed, he hasn't got the pace to do it.

549.706 - 568.669 Graeme Souness

I think it's a 100% certain red card, and it's just the bizarre thing I said at half-time. Is he looking for the linesman? Is he looking to make a shell? It's just, if you're going for the ball, go for the ball and make the challenge. I've never seen anything like it. Bizarre. Stupid. With definite red? Soft, but yes, it was a red.

568.809 - 574.798 Jamie Redknapp

It's not soft. No, soft because there was not a lot of contact, that's what I mean. But it is a red, I agree with you. Go on, Graham.

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You're still shaking your head. Yeah, because I don't see a lot of contact there. Is it not the intent? It doesn't have to be. It's the intent with the tackle. I think it's more Costa who's going to say Latin players do that better than anybody else. You know, he's made his mind up. He's got across Mertes-Sacri. He said, go on then, go on then, lunge at me and I'm going down.

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He screams, he screams. He holds his thighs or he holds his knee or wherever. He's never been caught there. And it's what they call cute play, I suppose. It's not something that certainly my generation saw a lot of.

Chapter 7: How do the results affect the Premier League standings?

696.046 - 711.452 Gus Hiddink

You need the energy to put you where you're good at. He's focusing on that and finally it pays off. He came off with an injury. How serious is it? We'll see. We'll see. We'll make some scans. I don't think it's very, very serious.

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Also, Cesc Fabregas said he is back, or close to being back to his best football now. What would you put that down to, and would you agree with him?

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719.75 - 739.547 Gus Hiddink

Yeah, he is strategically very strong and when you have him you can start playing football and that's important and of course he knows himself as the best and I'm happy when he says that he is growing in his shape and that's true.

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A result like today, can it be a springboard to go on a spectacular run?

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744.217 - 767.07 Gus Hiddink

What I said before, we were unbeaten seven games in a row, but it was not satisfying because that is what draws, it was a win, it was another win, another draw, and if we can say we are unbeaten with more pride, then you have three, four wins, and this is a step to try to go on that path.

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14 points between you and Champions League spot. You've got to have belief, but also you've got to be realistic. Do you think it is achievable?

775.977 - 804.128 Gus Hiddink

If we stay unbeaten, on the positive side, then it's a big gap. But you see, the team knows that it's a big gap, and we do, but I want to see the ambition of the team always there. Whether you can go in fourth place, yes or no, the ambition must be there every game when there's nothing at stake. Even then, I want them to be ambitious. Thank you, Koos, well done today. Thank you.

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So they've got to stay unbeaten to have any chance of getting anywhere near that top four. Well, they're unbeaten so far with Goose hitting back at Chelsea. Two wins now and four draws. And Jamie is the key for him moving forward. He talked about Cesc Fabregas there. He says himself he's nearly back to his best. Diego Costa has picked up another injury, but he looked back to his menacing best.

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Eden Hazard coming back today.

Chapter 8: What are the next steps for Chelsea and Arsenal after this weekend?

1074.395 - 1082.875 Arsène Wenger

Well, I know that you know me certainly better than I do, but it was my decision.

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Overall, after a game like today, is it more a case of the emotional damage that it does, the confidence, as opposed to the points?

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1091.135 - 1116.06 Arsène Wenger

No, I think... the points the emotional damage is of course there because the disappointment is there but what is important is the points more than emotional damage and when you look at the table right now and after today what are your thoughts It hasn't changed, but it will be very tight until the end. But you have many teams involved in it.

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1116.521 - 1129.858 Arsène Wenger

But today, of course, was a home game where we knew that it is very important to win the big games like that. And so we focus on the next one.

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Arsene, thank you. Thank you. So he's clearly upset about the sending off again. He also was interested in... I'm only questioning. for Arsenal. What's your take on the change that he made? Taking off Giroud, he talked about pace on the counter-attack, but, as Geoff said, they had chances that Giroud might have finished. It's easy to be clever afterwards.

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I would go with Arsenal, because I think Kurt Zouma, John Terry, they enjoy playing against a big, strong man. They don't want to be taken on by someone who's electric. So I get that. I think it's easy to sit here now and say afterwards, maybe he shouldn't have done that. But I think... It was the right thing to do.

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I think the game, you know, they're going to spend a lot of time on the back foot. You're hoping Chelsea are going to push up and you're hoping you can catch them at a better pace. As it turned out, the chances when they came fell to Flamini and... And that's the way it falls sometimes for you. You have to see, I disagree with Arsene when he said there's some great chances.

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I thought they huffed and puffed a lot, but there's no real... They had one shot on target. Yeah, no real clear chances.

1192.036 - 1195.28 Jamie Redknapp

I thought Flamini won, but he didn't take it well.

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