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Small Town Murder

Crazy Cousin Carnage - Depoy, Kentucky

08 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What happened in Depoy, Kentucky that led to the massacre?

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In the suburbs of D.C., a woman fails to show up for work and is found brutally murdered.

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6.318 - 10.242 Jimmie Whisman

I wonder what's the emergency. We just walked in the door and there's blood in the foyer.

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For the next two decades, the case remained unsolved until new technology allowed investigators to do what had once been impossible. A new series from ABC Audio in 2020, Blood and Water. Listen now, wherever you get your podcasts.

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43.94 - 68.002 James Pietragallo

Hello, everybody, and welcome back to Small Town Murder Express. Yay and choo-choo! Yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you so much for joining us today on another crazy, wild, insane edition of Small Town Murder Express, and we have... That for you and more this week. It is crazy stuff.

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Ten pounds of murder in a two pound bag, as we like to say. Before we get started, though, definitely head over to shut up and give me murder dot com. Get your tickets for live shows. Everybody also merchandise.

Chapter 2: Who are the key family members involved in this tragic story?

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Then in October on the 3rd, we're in Dallas on the 16th, San Jose, 17th, Sacramento, and then Tarrytown, New York, and Boston in November. So get those tickets right now. Shut up and give me murder.com. Get yourself –

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People of Denver, what that show's like.

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115.286 - 140.446 James Pietragallo

Yes, we had a great time in Denver. Thank you so much to everybody that came out for that. Yeah, that was great. Yeah, Denver was a lot of fun. Salt Lake City was a show. Denver was great. Salt Lake City, they're fine. They can't help Salt Lake City. It's just in Salt Lake City, which is just, good God, I can't do it. But love Denver, though. It's a place. It's certainly a place. On land.

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Right there in a mountainous region.

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Right there in there. So thank you to everybody that came out, though. You guys were awesome. Unbelievable. You guys were great. Thank you to everybody. So definitely do that. Get yourself Patreon also. Patreon.com slash crime in sports. That's where you get all the bonus material. Anybody $5 a month or above, you get every last drop of everything we put out, including as soon as you subscribe.

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You get just a huge back catalog of bonus episodes you've never heard before. Almost 400. Then you get new ones every other week.

Chapter 3: How did Terry's mental health issues contribute to the events?

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They had black ink on their hands when they were done looking for it. harder to whack off like that. It was tough on those people. Uh, then for small, more evidence. Yeah. For small town murder. It looks like the vote is in. It looks like the FLDS. Yeah. Trust me. False profit documentary.

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205.814 - 210.281 Jimmie Whisman

I did, uh, vote a lot. I sent a lot of emails to us.

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210.301 - 227.064 James Pietragallo

Uh, I'd be too. I really, this is the one I want to do now. And then we'll do internet salad in a couple of weeks. Then we have a lot of other fun stuff planned. So Patreon is going to be a lot of fun. Patreon.com slash crime in sports. And yeah, You get all the shows we put out, Crime and Sports, Your Stupid Opinions, and Small Town Murder, all ad-free with your Patreon as well.

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And you get a shout-out at the end of the regular show where Jimmy will mispronounce your name all sorts of different ways. So that said, I think it's time, everybody.

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I think it's time to sit back.

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What do you say here? Let's all clear the lungs, arms to the sky, and let's all shout. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this, everybody. Okay. Let's go on a trip, shall we? All right.

Chapter 4: What were the circumstances surrounding the police response?

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We are going to Kentucky this week. Down Kentucky way. Here we go. Now, the murder itself happened in a town called, I think it's Depoy. It's so small, I can't even find a pronunciation for it. It's just... It's so small there's no stats. It's basically just a few houses. There's no anything in the town. Depoy, I believe is how you say it. How do you spell that? D-E-P-O-Y. So it might be Depoy.

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It might be Depoy. Maybe it's like Patrick Waugh, the goalie. Maybe it's – we don't know. Maybe. But it's so small, and it's only six minutes from Greenville. So Greenville is where, like, if you wanted to go get a Snickers bar, you'd go to Greenville for it, which is also a very tiny town. None of these places are big.

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Chapter 5: What led to the standoff with law enforcement?

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Greenville, Kentucky? Greenville, Kentucky. So the murder happened in DePauw. When we have DePauw information, I'll give you that. But otherwise, it's going to be for Greenville here. Greenville, Kentucky. They're both – it's western Kentucky either way. About an hour and 45 to Nashville. About two hours to Louisville.

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And about 35 minutes to Madisonville, Kentucky, which is our last destination.

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318.007 - 338.8 James Pietragallo

uh kentucky episode episode 655 which was the murder of the queen which was the dairy queen lady if you remember that wow we were so hungry after that show does she own one right yeah she was like for years and years like she had it since like the 50s she was like an original dairy one of the only ones that had like an original recipe ice cream yeah it was pretty cool so uh

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Yeah, we wanted dilly bars bad after that. This is in Muhlenberg County, which I don't think we've ever talked about before because I was like, Muhlenberg County. That's the county. I don't know. Muhlenberg, like the German spelling with an H. Area codes 270 and 364. Population here, 4,507. So that is not much. It's a tiny place.

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Median household income here, about half the national average, which is not good, $34,295. But luckily for them, median home cost is also insanely low, $127,300, which is like a third of the national average, basically. Find somewhere in the country that's that cheap. God damn. It has to be in a place that you've never heard of. That's the only place you're going to find that.

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Now, a little bit of history. On DePoy, I hope I'm saying that right, it was a stop on the Illinois Central Gulf Railroad and was named for a railroad agent named Elmer DePoyster. He's the DePoyster. And they were like, let's make it just DePoy after him.

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Now, on Greenville, it was settled in about 1799 here on an estate donated by a local landowner named William Campbell to establish a new seat of government for a new county. So there you go. Now, it was incorporated as a city in 1848, so it took a while. It took 50 years. They think it maybe was named for the Revolutionary War General Nathaniel Greene. That's the best they can do.

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Otherwise, they don't know. Also, it's pretty green around there. Who knows? Now, in 1987, the Encyclopedia of Kentucky refers to Greenville as the, quote, unofficial capital of the black belt. They don't mean people.

Chapter 6: How did the community react to the tragedy?

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They mean production of coal and, quote, dark tobacco. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Well, things that are great for us. Anything that's going to fuck up your breathing apparatus. They make it here. Yeah, because of the cancer belt. A couple of reviews of this town here. There isn't much. Here is one. Five stars. The job market here is very slim. I believe that the middle of nowhere. Yeah.

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The county's always been dependent upon the coal industry. And with the government applying stricter laws and regulations, many companies have either chosen to close or find different means to fuel their business. That, in turn, leads to the job job loss across the board. Yeah, they're terrible jobs and the terrible jobs go away. Then there's no job.

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So it's like, well, I guess one of those terrible jobs.

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491.583 - 497.011 Jimmie Whisman

It sounds like the CEO of a company is noticing some loss, and he started an OnlyFans.

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Yeah, he's like, well, I guess I'll sell pictures of my feet. Now, four stars here. The area is great because of how friendly and welcoming everyone is. It is a beautiful town that is growing. Is it? It's growing? How much is it growing, really? Yeah.

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Two people move here, it's growing.

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We had 4,800 like 10 years ago. Now it's 5,100. So 4,800, 4,900. We're doing great. Three stars here. One thing I like about Greenville is the fact that everyone knows everyone. I don't like that. It's a small town, and I always love going to Walmart and seeing people reunite with the people they haven't seen in a while. This is their social center here is Walmart.

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Yeah.

Chapter 7: What was the outcome of Terry's legal proceedings?

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Literally, I go there, oh, I saw my buddy from high school. That's strange, right? My balls came through my undies. I'm going to go see Tom down at the Walmart. See if he can sell me some new ones. However, I've met a lot of ignorant people in this town, and that saddens me. People who yell racial slurs, I'd like to see change in the future.

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Yeah, you know, less people just indiscriminately yelling racial slurs would probably be better for everyone.

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567.991 - 574.781 Jimmie Whisman

Sure do hope down the road a piece that you recognize the error of that.

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574.881 - 586.699 James Pietragallo

Maybe in the 2100s we'll figure that out down here. We don't know. I don't wish for anyone to feel uncomfortable and unsafe in any town. However, it's a problem in Greenville, Kentucky, and it has to change. Okay, things to do in this town.

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Okay.

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Oh, it is the Hogs H-A-W-G-S because Harley is very litigious, by the way. You can't name an event at a bar something with hog in it. They will fucking sue you. They will send you a cease and desist. They're crazy. The word hog, they own that shit and you're not allowed to use it. They better tell that to Arkansas. Well, they have actual hogs there.

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I'm talking, if you're referring to a motorcycle and you're calling it a hog. Is that what they're doing? Yes. Hogs, bogs, and brews. Bike and Jeep night, it's called.

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Oh.

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Yeah. Like WCW Wrestling used to have a show called Hog Wild that was at Sturgis. They had to change it to Road Wild because Harley said we're suing you. What? You can't use the word hog. We own it. Yeah. They don't own hog, do they? Yeah, that's a real American old-timey company. Sue you for using hog. It's so funny.

Chapter 8: What reflections did Brooklyn have about her family's past?

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They're corporate as shit, and everybody acts like they're like some... What a stupid thing to sue about. A bunch of guys get out of prison and then put a Harley shirt on, and they're like, cool, right? Yeah, they're really cool. They're not corporate at all. Hog, yep. So this is on May 30th here, so you can still have time. There's motorcycles, Jeeps, cold beers, and live music.

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That's everything there, I would say. And then this next one, not a lot to do here, but I just like the name of it. The Squash and Gobble Arts and Crafts Festival. What is that? Squash and Gobble. I don't know. It looks like crafts. It's a bunch of crafts. What's the gobble about? I don't know. And Brian Wiggins and Swift Silver will be playing there along with the local honeys and Evan Galen.

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So Gal Galen. So there you go. That says this is not good. No, it's small. So it's going to be tough there.

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698.723 - 702.167 Jimmie Whisman

But if you don't have a Jeep or a Harley, you're assed out on everything.

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Well, I just assume if you live here, you have a four-wheel drive vehicle or a motorcycle or both. I think that's what they're assuming. I don't know.

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Both of them are vehicles that wave at each other if they see the other. Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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They all do it to each other.

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Those are waivers. That's one thing. I never want any vehicle that puts me in a club. That's the wave community. Never, ever. If I'm looking at cars, what are you looking for? Something that no one will wave at me in. That's what I'm looking for. I'm not a part of a fucking anything. I don't want to be a part of your community.

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