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SNAFU with Ed Helms

S4E23: Chelsea Handler and The Hindenburg

11 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What unique experience does Chelsea Handler share about her travels?

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I love sharing my drugs, too. I love giving them away. My whole tour is basically about me traveling around the world, handing out LSD to strangers.

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8.763 - 12.17 Chelsea Handler

That's so great. You're the Pied Piper of microdosing.

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Yeah, I like to think of myself as a Sherpa. It's unexpected, you know, coming from me, but that's where I'm at in my life.

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30.997 - 34.541 Ed Helms

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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35.603 - 54.405 Questlove

Good people, what's up, what's up? It's Questlove. So recently I had the incredible opportunity to have a real conversation with actress and producer Jamie Lee Curtis from Routines to Recovery, True Lies, and a certain Jermaine Jackson music video. Jamie's real and raw, and it's something I really admire about her.

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I am so happy that I'm the head in charge at 67, that I have the perspective that I have at my age to really be able to put all of this into context.

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Listen to The Questlove Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I'm Bailey Taylor, and this is It Girl. This podcast is all about going deeper with the women's shaping culture right now. Yes, we will talk about the style and the success, but we are also talking about the pressure, the expectations, and the real work behind it all. As a woman in the industry, you're always underestimated.

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So you have to work extra hard in a way that doesn't compromise who you are and your integrity. You know, I like to say I was kind of like a silent ninja.

Chapter 2: How does Chelsea Handler describe the Hindenburg's air travel experience?

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Yes, to all of our listeners, whatever time of day you are downloading this. What's happening? How are you?

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I'm well, thank you, Ed. How are you doing?

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222.95 - 234.985 Chelsea Handler

I'm pretty splendid, I have to say. I mean, the world is burning down, but I'm trying to stay positive. I'm in this like deep state of denial. And so I'm just saying I'm great.

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I too am also trying to remain positive, but yes, it's very interesting. I find myself dipping in and out of the news, but when I dip in, I feel so guilty for having dipped out that it's a vicious, vicious cycle. I feel like I'm much better suited to handle the issues when I'm not reading about them all day.

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But when so many people are impacted, it's impossible not to want to know what's happening. So it's a good thing to be optimistic. There's that.

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I also feel like when you dip into things by yourself, like if you kind of get into the news or you get into the social media sort of like black hole by yourself, it's just like despair. Whereas if you kind of engage with other people or if you're in a larger conversation, whether it's a dinner party or just a whatever, then at least you can commiserate and feel like there's –

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I don't know, more humanity to the whole situation.

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Yes, yes. It's very comforting to know other people, especially people in other countries, when they're as concerned. Because I'm in Canada right now. I spent a lot of time here in the winter. And Canadians immediately, whenever I'm at a dinner party, immediately just make a beeline for me going, what is going to happen?

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And I'm like, but it makes me feel it's heartwarming to know so many other people are as concerned about our country as we are.

Chapter 3: What were the luxurious features of the Hindenburg airship?

333.155 - 348.512 Chelsea Handler

Does any particular kind of outlet come more easily to you or feel like sort of the most natural fit, whether it's writing books or doing stand-up or hosting like your podcast? Which one is kind of like the most... easy fit.

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You know, if I do the same thing over and over again, I have a low tolerance for that. So everything's a little bit different than the other thing. Like writing a book is a lot different than my standup, even though they're both storytelling. My podcast is like me giving advice to people that are calling in. So real people, I love communicating with real people.

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There's overlap with that doing standup. You know, I'm about to start this tour, uh, this month called the high and mighty tour where I get to see and, you know, have like you know, live audiences and thousands of people and you're right in front of them. And that also means a lot to me too.

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Definitely during times like this that we're experiencing when you can get up and really look out into the crowd and see definitely two strangers who definitely did not arrive together, laughing together and rubbing shoulders together. Like that makes me feel purposeful.

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is touring hard? Is it fun?

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Is it like, I'm sure it's all those things, but what's the hiring to travel all of the time and to go to a different city each day. But I'm so used to this, you know, I've been doing this my whole life that I operate the best out of a hotel room. That's when I'm peaking. It's when I get back to my house where I start to go, wait, wait, wait, where is everything?

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I've grown so accustomed to being on the road that it's really not a big deal for me. I could tolerate a lot more travel than, than your average person.

422.108 - 442.948 Chelsea Handler

Yeah, it's just like whatever patterns you get into, you just want to kind of stay in that. All right. Well, the subject of today, it's interesting we're talking about travel because the subject of today's snafu is about that. I'm really psyched to have you on the show, so I wanted to pick something really sort of juicy and iconic. This one's pretty epic and memorable.

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Today, we're going to take a ride on the Hindenburg.

Chapter 4: What led to the Hindenburg disaster in 1937?

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And it's like Mick Jagger, right? The guy can just still move and groove. And he's like 900 at this point.

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Yeah, I mean, he's, I don't know, nobody can even keep track. He's already aged out of what we're keeping track of age-wise.

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665.26 - 689.766 Chelsea Handler

All right, well, let's get a little more specific about what a zeppelin is. It's basically a fabric-covered metal framework of transverse rings and longitudinal girders, kind of like a big metal rib cage. And inside are a number of bladders filled with either hydrogen or helium gas because those are both significantly lighter than air. However, only one of those gases is also highly flammable.

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And which one is that? Well, let's just say there's a reason we don't give kids hydrogen balloons at parties. So at first, Germany used Zeppelins as bombers and scouting craft during World War I, as I mentioned before, and they were surprisingly effective, but not everyone was buying the Zeppelin hype. One very early hater was Orville Wright.

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In 1909, the New York Times ran an article titled, Wright Sees No Hope in Zeppelin Airship. And I mean, come on, he's the inventor of the airplane. Of course, he's going to shit on arrival.

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Absolutely.

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Air travel, right?

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Come on.

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Would you ride in like a blimp? Is that something that would be cool?

Chapter 5: How did the Hindenburg's design contribute to its demise?

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How many miles per hour?

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They could get up to like 80 or 90 miles an hour.

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So, OK, so nothing close to what a plane can accomplish.

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But a lot faster than a ship. So when you're talking like transatlantic travel, the Hindenburg could cross the Atlantic in a couple of days as opposed to five or 10 days on a cruise ship.

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OK.

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Yeah, they're pretty cool, I have to say. So this guy who's taken over the company, he's like, I think we can do luxury air travel on these things. And that brings us to the Hindenburg, which was named after former German President Paul von Hindenburg. Construction began in 1931, and it was the biggest airship ever built. There had been actually a lot of airships. work over the last 30 years.

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Like I said, they were used in World War I, but they were starting to be used for cargo and all these different kinds of things. This thing was over 800 feet long, which is basically like a small stadium size.

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Wow. Yeah. To get that up in the air is quite a feat.

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Yeah. Yeah. And there's here's the my favorite little dark detail. It was partially built using metal salvaged from another hydrogen airship that had already crashed, which is less like recycling and more like tempting fate, I think.

Chapter 6: What were the public's reactions to the Hindenburg disaster?

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The biggest and the best rather than the most efficacious or the most... Like, yeah, bigger is America. Better is America. We need the tallest buildings. We need the skyscrapers. We need the biggest phones. Remember when phones first came out and they were like little flip phones and then all of a sudden you were talking on a fucking iPad?

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Yeah.

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Like, why? Why do they keep going around in circles? Just leave them small and manageable. But I don't know. I find that to be a very American thing and a very war thing.

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917.592 - 927.461 Chelsea Handler

Well, you're so right. Also, SUVs, right? There was a time in the 80s when cars got very small and efficient. And then all of a sudden, everyone just wanted, like, these tanks.

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Right. And now we have that Tesla truck that is loitering around everywhere. They're very ugly.

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Yeah, they give off, to me, RoboCop vibes. Yeah. It's like 80s violence. It just looks like a violent vehicle.

948.102 - 957.578 Bailey Taylor

I'm Bailey Taylor, and this is It Girl. You may know me from my It Girl series I've done on the streets of New York over the years. Well, I've got good news. I am bringing those interviews and many more to this podcast.

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Yes, we will talk about the style and the success, but we are also talking about the pressure, the expectations, and the real work with the women shaping culture right now. As a woman in the industry, you're always underestimated. So you have to work extra hard and you have to push the narrative in a way that doesn't compromise who you are and your integrity.

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You know, I like to say I was kind of like a silent ninja.

Chapter 7: What parallels are drawn between the Hindenburg and modern technology?

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Each week, I have unfiltered conversations with female founders, creatives, and leaders to talk about ambition, visibility, and what it really takes to build something meaningful in the public eye. Because being a Nick girl isn't about the spotlight.

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992.09 - 1007.626 Bailey Taylor

It's about owning it. I think the negatives need to be discussed and they need to be told to people who maybe don't do this every day just so they know what's really going on. I feel like pulling the curtain back is important. Listen to It Girl with Bailey Taylor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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1011.15 - 1027.223 Questlove

Good people. What's up? What's up? It's Questlove. So recently I had the incredible opportunity to have a real conversation with with actress and producer Jamie Lee Curtis ahead of the release of her new thriller series, Scarpetta. I can honestly say I've never done an interview like that before.

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1027.244 - 1040.142 Questlove

You know, at one point I shut my laptop down and we just started chatting as old friends, recent Oscar recipient. So we have some commonality there. I predicted that, by the way.

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And you said these words to me, dust off your mantle. Yes. And I looked at you and I said, what? And you said, dust off your mantle. And then I left and that was it. And then when all of that happened, I remember the next morning, I think I wanted to like write you and go, how did you know?

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Listen to The Questlove Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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In 2023, former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-and-so, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case.

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I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfectant.

Chapter 8: What does Chelsea Handler reveal about her personal views on travel and experiences?

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1114.871 - 1116.593 Bailey Taylor

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As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.

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1121.058 - 1127.385 Bailey Taylor

Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news out of Maricopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges.

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He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground. He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years. I'm like, Lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity.

1174.093 - 1175.976 Chelsea Handler

The best lie is partial truth.

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For 22 years, only two people knew the truth until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1200.248 - 1228.078 Chelsea Handler

So this Hindenburg, it was 800 feet long. It was absolutely massive. But it had a cabin. So underneath was this sort of structure in which the crew and the passengers would ride. And it was really incredible. It had private cabins, a dining room with fine crockery, two promenades with large observation windows, a bar and a lounge that featured a custom-built Bloutner building.

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