Listen to part one here. Kathleen Folbigg spent 20 years in prison after she was wrongfully convicted of killing her four young children. Two years after being exonerated, Kathleen sat down with her best friend, Tracy Chapman, to write their new book, Inside Out. In part two of this exclusive conversation, Kathleen and Tracy share what it was really like inside that world, from the daily battles to stay strong and the rare friendships that became lifelines to the extraordinary scientific breakthroughs that finally proved what they’d always known. While Kathleen fought on the inside, revealing untold prison stories, Tracy fought from the outside, spending years advocating for her friend’s freedom, convincing people everywhere she went. Inside Out by Kathleen Folbigg and Tracy Chapman, out 2 September. Available in stores, as an eBook and audiobook. Watch the full episode with Kathleen and Tracy here. Something To Talk About is a podcast by Stellar, hosted by Sarrah Le Marquand Find more from Stellar via Instagram @stellarmag or stellarmag.com.auSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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