Why Phoebe Burgess hasn’t gone on a date in 7 years

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What sparked Phoebe Burgess’s decision to step away from traditional job titles and social media?

Sarrah Le Marquand 0:08
Hello and welcome to Something to Talk About, the Stella podcast. I'm Sarah Lamarquand, your host, and every week I sit down with some of the biggest names in the country because when Australia's celebrities are ready to talk, they come to Something to Talk About. When Phoebe Burgess was filling out the census this year, she really wasn't sure what to write down when it came to job description. Content creator? Journalist?
Phoebe Burgess 0:33
Mum? Or maybe
Sarrah Le Marquand 0:35
media person?
Phoebe Burgess 0:36
I don't have a title anymore. Like I don't have something that I am. I would have no idea what to put in my Instagram bio to indicate what I do. So I just don't put much.
Sarrah Le Marquand 0:48
Phoebe's life looks very different from what she once imagined. When her marriage to former NRL player Sam Burgess ended seven years ago, she moved to her parents' home outside of Sydney, where she still lives today with her two children, Poppy and Billy. Since then, motherhood has demanded most of her time, but it's also changed the way she shows up online.
Phoebe Burgess 1:10
Not everything is amazing. Sometimes life is just life.
Sarrah Le Marquand 1:14
On today's episode of The Stella Podcast, Phoebe opens up about reclaiming her identity and whether she'll ever be ready to date again. She also shares what it feels like to see her former husband build a new life and family overseas. And as she launches a new project with Below Deck Mediterranean star Hannah Ferrier, she reflects on what else might come next. Phoebe Burgess, welcome to the Stellar Podcast.
Phoebe Burgess 1:41
Sarah, thank you so much for having
Sarrah Le Marquand 1:43
me. Phoebe, I haven't seen you for a while, but more importantly, I feel like a lot of the people of Australia haven't seen you for a while. You do have a new project coming up, which we will be talking about in a minute, but because it has been a hot minute since... You
Phoebe Burgess 1:59
have
Sarrah Le Marquand 1:59
done an interview. I was thinking earlier about the way that we identify people, as in here is a journalist, here is television presenter. And I'm not sure if you've had any reason to be filling out in any incoming passenger cards flying through an international airport
Phoebe Burgess 2:16
lately. Well, Sarah, the census. The census. The census. I was filling it out and I thought, and it was the same thing when I was going through the legal system and you had to put a job.

How did Phoebe redefine her identity after the divorce and becoming a single mother?

Phoebe Burgess 2:25
And I think I've been scarred by that because I go to think, I think, well, I'm educated in, you know, I've got a bachelor in marketing communications, Sydney, but I was a producer and then I was a bit of this and then I was a professional wife and then I wasn't. And Jeremy, you're right. There are so many. And it actually got me thinking about identity a bit as well. there isn't just one hat, like there isn't. And so I think I just write down sort of media person and just leave it at that or writer, but I haven't written anything in a while. Journalist, but I'm not really breaking any stories lately. And Sarah, for so long, I think since the age of, like, I didn't take a gap year. I never stopped. I was very gung-ho when it came to career or what I was doing next.
Phoebe Burgess 3:10
And Like you were saying, I've sort of disappeared a little bit. For the first time in sort of forever, what I do to earn money or as a career for a living, it kind of stopped. I don't know if this is maturity. It stopped informing how I perceive and value myself. And I know that sounds heavy, but for a really long time, what I did and what I was called, what I told people I did was really important. That was the big thing. umbrella. And, you know, now we can't really just say when I was doing the census, you know, you can't say domestic. And I realized things needed to change when I was filling out how many hours of domestic work I did. I was like, OK, we need to find something else here, but in a sort of really real sense, I think going through the fire and coming out the other side, what was important before was
Phoebe Burgess 4:07
you know, being quite publicly humbled or humiliated or going through something that wasn't on my little list of, you know, what's coming up for the next 10 years. I think it kind of shed all of that. And I just don't care. Not as in I don't care, but I know what I do.

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