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Something You Should Know

The Science of Getting Lucky & What People Secretly Google

07 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.554 - 21.084 Mike Carruthers

I know you like interesting and thought-provoking conversations and ideas because you listen to something you should know. So let me recommend another podcast I know you will enjoy. It's The Jordan Harbinger Show. Jordan has a real talent for getting his guests to share stories and offer thought-provoking insights.

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21.705 - 43.474 Mike Carruthers

Over the years, I've sent a lot of people to listen, and I get feedback from people who are so glad I introduced them to The Jordan Harbinger Show. Recently, he discussed Scientology and the children who are raised in that organization. It's a fascinating conversation. And he talked with Dr. Rhonda Patrick about how to protect your mind and body from the modern world.

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44.337 - 70.769 Mike Carruthers

And it's tougher than you think. I've gotten to know Jordan pretty well. We talk frequently, and I tell you, he is a very smart, insightful guy who does a hell of a podcast. Check out The Jordan Harbinger Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Today on Something You Should Know, is it true you're only six degrees of separation from everyone else?

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71.59 - 76.595 Mike Carruthers

Then, how to attract more luck in your life by understanding how luck really works.

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77.516 - 92.273 Tina Selig

I think a lot of people think that luck just happens, and some people are luckier than others. And what I'm trying to do is to show people the amount of agency they have in their lives to make the things they want come to life.

92.607 - 101.777 Mike Carruthers

Also, the nicer you are, the less money you're likely to make. And what do people mostly search for on Google? And how does it change?

102.638 - 117.515 Simon Rogers

Yeah, I mean, 15% of searches are brand new each day. What? 15% of searches each day are brand new, which means they've never been searched before. So yeah, like the data is constantly evolving and changing. I think some of the big themes have stayed the same.

117.535 - 120.538 Mike Carruthers

All this today on Something You Should Know.

122.425 - 138.786 Hillary Frank

Hey, it's Hillary Frank from The Longest Shortest Time, an award-winning podcast about parenthood and reproductive health. We talk about things like sex ed, birth control, pregnancy, bodily autonomy, and of course, kids of all ages. But you don't have to be a parent to listen.

Chapter 2: What does six degrees of separation mean in today's world?

298.368 - 299.65 Tina Selig

I'm delighted to be here.

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299.798 - 308.239 Mike Carruthers

So define luck for me from your perspective, because I think different people think luck is different things. So what is luck to you?

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308.708 - 330.728 Tina Selig

And this is really a perfect place to start. First of all, the definition of luck is success or failure apparently caused by chance. And the most interesting thing there is the word apparently. And that's what I've been really diving into is that what is actually behind the curtain when people are lucky, what are the things they've actually done? So that's one piece of the puzzle.

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331.148 - 350.612 Tina Selig

The other thing that's very important to get set at the beginning is that there's a very big difference between fortune and luck. Fortune is things that happen to you. Luck is something that you have some agency over. So you don't control who your parents are or what the weather is today or whether there's a pandemic.

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351.173 - 359.725 Tina Selig

But you do control whether you say hello to the person standing next to you in line and open up a whole world of possibilities. So there's a big difference.

359.965 - 365.513 Mike Carruthers

Yeah, yeah. Well, one is just pure chance and one is something else.

366.286 - 387.451 Tina Selig

Well, chance is also interesting. There's a big difference between chance and gambling, right? If I buy a lottery ticket, that's gambling. I have no control over the outcome. But if I play poker, that's a game of chance. I could actually get better at it. So I think it's very important to distinguish between the two, just as the difference between fortune and luck.

387.951 - 396.94 Tina Selig

Because if you take a chance and throw your hat in the ring for a new job, you can really set yourself up to be much more successful if you're really well prepared and you go about it the right way.

397.74 - 410.012 Mike Carruthers

Well, I mean, you sort of, I mean, you can't win the lottery unless you play. You're right. But you probably can't win either, even if you do play. But you can never win if you don't play.

Chapter 3: How can we increase our chances of getting lucky?

1114.277 - 1134.017 Mike Carruthers

And it doesn't feel like people are really... doing what you're talking about, which is helping people, giving back, creating. It's more of a transactional, what can you do for me? I like your way better, but it's hard to find those interactions.

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1134.706 - 1160.528 Tina Selig

Okay, Mike, I think you're onto something really important there. This is not transactional. This is about building authentic connections with people. I really don't like the word networking and network. You have a community. And when you have a community, they are there to support you thick or thin. And it is one of the most powerful things you can have in life, right?

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1160.508 - 1188.945 Tina Selig

is having a community people that you can trust and support you when you need it. It starts, though, with helping other people. And the more you help other people, the more comes back to you. There is research that shows that if you do something even small for someone, you might even forget about it. But they remember your goodwill, and what comes back to you is often quite a bit bigger.

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1189.381 - 1216.3 Tina Selig

I help you with your math homework when we're in college. And later, you help me find a job. And it actually works the opposite. Luck is a long game. Because I'm going to ask you, have you ever had this situation where there's someone you know and they did something that was not very nice or something that was unseemly or treated you badly or didn't show appreciation? And then many years later,

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1216.28 - 1230.357 Tina Selig

You get a reference call for them or they ask for help. And you kind of do a double take and think, do I really want to? Am I going to give this person a good reference? Am I going to really help this person?

1231.265 - 1250.634 Tina Selig

Whereas if they had been someone who had been generous to you in the past without wanting anything in return, when it comes time for them to need something from you, you will be very generous in offering a fabulous recommendation or an opportunity. Do you agree with me?

1250.954 - 1252.817 Mike Carruthers

Yeah. Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah.

1253.489 - 1270.195 Tina Selig

Right, but people don't realize that. You know, I sometimes have someone in my life who does something that's really inappropriate. And the first thing I think is, wow, you made a big mistake. Because of course, you could get away with that right now.

1270.676 - 1287.393 Tina Selig

But I am pretty sure that at some point in the future, someone is going to ask someone on my team, someone's going to ask them for a reference for you. and everyone just saw this behavior, they're not going to help you.

Chapter 4: What is the difference between luck and fortune?

1385.248 - 1409.721 Tina Selig

And all of these things require engaging other people. And there are things you do that make it more likely that you're going to reach that goal. And a lot of that, as you say, it looks like luck. But what I'm trying to unpack it and say, hey, listen, there's actually a whole list of things that people who are lucky do to make it more likely that these positive things happen.

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1411.912 - 1426.232 Mike Carruthers

See, I think when I look back in my life of the things that I think I was lucky at, and I've had plenty of things that I was lucky at, some of them are what you're talking about, but some of them came out of the blue, just completely.

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1426.252 - 1426.873 Tina Selig

Give me an example.

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1428.155 - 1447.787 Mike Carruthers

So I used, for many years, for most of my career, I was a disc jockey on the radio. And one day... I got a call from a guy who was producing a television show for Fox and said, we want to use you as the announcer on this show.

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1448.709 - 1449.732 Tina Selig

Okay, perfect.

1450.235 - 1458.247 Mike Carruthers

And they did. And it was an incredible experience. But it wasn't like something I was trying to get. I never even thought about it.

1458.267 - 1481.427 Tina Selig

I understand. Okay, Mike, this is a perfect example. And this is why I debated the role of luck in our lives with my father for decades, is exactly this situation. Why did they call you? Why didn't they call someone else? Why did they call you? Because you had done all sorts of things to set the stage that you were the obvious person for them to call.

1482.81 - 1488.865 Tina Selig

If you had been a jerk, if you hadn't been good at your job, they would never have called you.

1490.11 - 1504.575 Mike Carruthers

Do you think, because I think this, that luck, good luck and bad luck, are self-fulfilling prophecies a lot of the time? If you think you are a lucky person, you're more likely to be a lucky person.

Chapter 5: What behaviors contribute to being perceived as lucky?

2465.534 - 2487.333 Simon Rogers

You think you know people, but really we don't. I mean, like some of the stuff is just weird to me. Like one of the top searched animals for can I keep dot, dot, dot as a pet is a panda. Now, I don't think you can keep a panda as a pet, really. But the fact that people are searching for that is hilarious to me. But also, I think the way that you can see these big social changes as well.

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2487.373 - 2502.715 Simon Rogers

So, for instance, searches for look-after parents have overtaken searches for look-after kids. And that speaks to something I think is a broader social trend around this sandwich generation that a lot of us find ourselves in right now.

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2504.23 - 2507.655 Mike Carruthers

Wow. Anything else that just really knocks your socks off?

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2508.536 - 2529.465 Simon Rogers

I mean, one of the top searched how to say I love you is how to say I love you in dog, which is we love our dogs for sure. In France, the top searched, actually in Paris, the top searched food is pizza. Meaning they're looking to get a pizza?

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2530.286 - 2536.18 Mike Carruthers

Yeah, I guess so. So one of the top searches in Paris is to, where do I get a pizza?

2536.38 - 2557.832 Simon Rogers

Oh, the top food searches. The top searched food in Paris is pizza. You're in the culinary capital of the world. Yeah, there's lots of stuff like that. There are things like if you look at kids' classes, they're very different in different places. So in Australia, parents search for coding classes for kids. In Canada, it's boxing. In the UK, it's parkour.

2558.453 - 2571.548 Simon Rogers

And in the US, it's etiquette, which I thought was interesting. Etiquette? Yeah, etiquette, exactly. I can't tell you why it is, but people are interesting and varied in all of our many ways.

2571.788 - 2576.974 Mike Carruthers

I would have thought, if anything, that would be much more of a British thing than an American thing.

2576.994 - 2578.736 Simon Rogers

Yeah, right? Me too. Yeah, not in Britain.

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