AI bosses are raising the alarm... over AI
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It's Monday, the 14th of September. In your squee today, AI bosses are sounding the alarm on their own technology. The Prime Minister and Pauline Hansen have exchanged words. Our audience survey results are out and the return of Queen Celine. This is your squeeze today. And uh, when we started drafting the newsletter yesterday, every media outlet was leading with a prominent tech leader warning about artificial intelligence.
Why are AI leaders like Anthropic’s CEO warning about a rogue AI takeover?
Now, people raising concerns over the development of AI is nothing new, but the names involved here have made it a huge story. Dario Amade, the CEO of Anthropic, Sam Altman, who runs OpenAI, and Elon Musk, who runs SpaceX AI. Now, those are probably the three most prominent names in the entire industry.
Absolutely, and they've all publicly said that it might be time to pump the brakes a bit. So Amade kicked things off by warning that rogue AI agents might be able to take over the entire internet, those were his words, in the next year. He says the risks are beginning to outgrow our ability to prevent them, mainly because AI models are now creating the new generation of AI models. Now, those risks involve things like AI being used for cyberattacks or terrorism or losing control of an AI program or system.
That second one already happened back in July. It was an incident called the Hugging Face incident. If you want to read more about it, that's where open AI models basically started hacking a company off their own bat without any human directing them to do it. Now, Amade says that got him thinking about whether things were moving too fast. And he's raised these concerns in a blog post uh over the weekend. Now, before you start sort of stress watching the Terminator franchise, uh Amaday stuff. still says that AI brings lots of benefits that make some of these risks worth it, but he says AI companies need to slow down the development so they can spend more time ensuring that it's all safe to use. And he has put together a three step plan to make that happen.
Right. First of all, he says an independent third-party team of evaluators should have access to every major AI company's systems to make sure things aren't getting out of control. He says Anthropic is actually already doing that. Second, he wants democratic countries to work together to come up with common safety standards. And third, he wants those countries to then work to ensure authoritarian countries would do the same. Now he's also said that any slowdown needs to be careful because if the US slows down too much, China might get ahead of the game.
Now some critics have pointed out that A, the ship might have sailed and all of this, B, if Amaday's getting worried he should stop AI development altogether, and C, he might look at cancelling Anthropic's upcoming initial public offering or IPO. So we'll see if any of that lands with him. But on the flip side, the Trump administration isn't keen at all on slowing down. It has publicly said that that would give China too much of an advantage in the AI race. And something to note for your diary, as it happens, AI is set to be the top talking point when Chinese President Xi Jinping visits Washington to visit US President Donald Trump on the twenty fourth of September. So just a week and a half away.
And her on Friday, you and Larissa talked about a spat involving one nation leader Paulin Hansen and Liberal MP Andrew Hasty. She's now in the middle of another one that's been playing out over the weekend, and this time it involves the Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese.
This latest row is about comments Senator Hanson made on Carl Stefanovic's podcast earlier this year, where she mimicked Albanese crying and mocked his account of growing up in social housing in Sydney's inner west, which Hanson labelled as pathetic. The background here is Marianne Albanese was a single mother who had several health challenges, which meant she relied on a disability pension.
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