Chapter 1: What is the premise of cursed movies?
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Hey everybody, happy Saturday. Chuck here with your Saturday Selects. And this week, I think it inspired me because recently we did an episode on the movie Roar, the most dangerous movie ever made, supposedly. And so let's go back to November of 2017, the 16th to be exact, to talk about movies being cursed. And this episode that runs at 56 minutes long, can movies be cursed?
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Chapter 2: What historical events link movies to curses?
There's Jerry. My tongue is super big today for some reason. Gross. And this is Stuff You Should Know. I know. I sound like Peter Overby, for God's sake. Who's that? You know that guy's voice anywhere. He's like an NPR reporter. Oh, yeah. And he has me even beat for the large tongue candy sucking sound.
Do you remember when we first came out and people would write in and be like, tell Josh to stop sucking on candy while he's podcasting. And I'd just be like, that's my normal voice, man. Yeah, thanks a lot. Yeah, appreciate that. But now, now that we're high rollers, they provided me with a private nurse to suction out the saliva every 30 seconds.
Oh, my God.
And then Jerry has to edit it out. So gross. Gross but true, right? Like a cursed movie story true? Yeah, do you know what I hate at the dentist besides everything? Man, that was a pretty good segue. I know that I just totally mowed over. It's all right.
Chapter 3: How did the movie 'Poltergeist' become associated with a curse?
I hate at the dentist now. You know, you don't have to spit anymore because they do have those suction things. But it's still, like I still do the fake swallow. You know how it feels like it builds up in the back of your mouth? Yeah. So, like, they'll be in your mouth and you'll just go like that.
I hate that.
That's funny. Do you do that? Does everyone do that? The gag reflex thing? Well, it's not even a gag reflex. It's just the... The hard swallow? The dry swallow? Yeah, the sort of swallow reflex, if that's such a thing. You feel like you're going to break your vocal cords or your throat muscles? God, I hate that. I know what you mean. I don't hate it, though. I think it's kind of... Yeah?
Yeah.
Not enjoyable, but I don't know. And I hate it when they talk to you and expect you to talk back. They can talk, but yeah, there can't be any questions involved. Maybe rhetorical questions that you can shrug at. That's it. My last hygienist, I really didn't care for her. Like it was a personality thing. And they have TVs at my dentist that they'll put down in front of you, which is fine.
I don't really care.
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Chapter 4: What tragic events occurred during the filming of 'The Omen'?
But she would stop and like look and make comments about the news and stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like in the middle. Why don't they just let him do his job? I didn't like it. It was, it was really annoying. And then I came back in not too long ago and there was a new hygienist for me and she was awesome. And on the way out, I was like, by the way, I was like, um, I won't say her name.
I was like, but this new hygienist, I really like a lot. Um, uh, and she was like, what about before? I was like, I wasn't crazy about her. And she went, no one was. And you guys need to tell us that. And we let her go because we got all these complaints started flooding in. I was like, well, I feel bad. Like, I don't want to get anyone fired. Sure. But I didn't. She wasn't good. Huh. So anyway.
Was this in Brookhaven? Yeah. Is it Brookhaven? How do you know where my dentist is? Well, I just had an experience in Brookhaven, and I'm like, this town is just small enough for that to be possible. Well, I'll go ahead and shout out my dentist, the great Dr. Daryl Kimchi. She's wonderful. Kimchi?
Chapter 5: What makes 'The Conqueror' a notable cursed film?
Uh-huh. That's one of my favorite foods. Well, but is that your dentist? Uh, no. Okay. But it's possible that we're talking about like a hygienist that gets fired pretty frequently. Maybe. You know? She's making the rounds in Buckhead, Brookhaven. Right. Yeah, Dr. Daryl Kim Chee of Atlanta Cosmetic Sports Dentistry. Wow, that is quite a shout out. I think Dr. Kimchi owes us some free kimchi.
Maybe. As a thank you. She's sort of a celebrity then. She does a lot of the sports people in Atlanta. And the Real Housewives? Maybe, but I went in and they have memorabilia up everywhere. And when the TV show was out, I gave them a poster and they never put it up. Oh, no way. That's hilarious. Yeah. Wow, that's great. That reminds me of the friends when Joey tried to get his head shot up at the
I think it's like the dry cleaner or something that would do it. Man, that is so stuff you should know. All right. Well, this has got a nice loose start. Indeed, Chuck.
Chapter 6: How did the movie 'Brainstorm' relate to the curse narrative?
But this is a fun one. But let's begin, shall we? Well, yeah. This was written by The Grabster. The article is 10 Movies That Were Supposedly Cursed. And Ed goes to great lengths to point out how there is no way that anything can ever be really cursed. Right. I think probably a couple lines where he's like, just so stupid. I know. Where it was edited out, you know?
I get the feeling he got assigned this and was like, oh, God, are you kidding me? Mm-hmm. I want to write about real stuff like Satanic Panic. But he does love writing about movies. He's definitely a movie guy. Yeah. especially horror movies, and it seems like more than any other movie, horror movies, they're the variety that tend to be associated with curses more than other types, right?
Or at least the marketing department cooks that up. So, yeah, that's definitely par for the course these days. But there was a more innocent, gentler time when rumors of Satan influencing the production of a movie was a legitimate rumor. You know, it wasn't a PR stunt.
So, like you said, it goes to some trouble to point out what's actually behind the idea of a movie curse, that some things are bound to happen on just about any movie set. Oh, yeah. Especially when you stop and consider, especially in the early days, the kind of stuff they were doing with the technology they were working with at the time. Of course bad things happened on movie sets.
Of course people died. Like, for example, I looked this up, right? There was a 1928 movie called Noah's Ark, and they used 600,000 gallons of water to create the flood scene. One take, they did one take and three extras drowned. One guy who did survive had to have a leg amputated.
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Chapter 7: What are the stories behind the deaths of actors linked to 'Rebel Without a Cause'?
It was broken so badly because this is the flood scene and you needed to basically get it as real as possible. Isn't that crazy? That is, yeah, especially back in those days. But they didn't care back then. Right, they were just like, oh, they're just extras, who cares? Although John Wayne, it turns out, was an extra on that movie, but he survived, obviously. And he factors into another curse.
He does. He also worked in the special effects department on that movie. Or prop, prop, sorry, prop. Like special effects was what? He did early CGI. Right. He would clap the coconuts together. For all the horse scenes. Right. But hold on. I have another one, okay? So this is another movie. Years later, they die with their boots on. I think it's about the Charge of the Light Brigade, maybe?
Okay. It was a 1941 movie starring Errol Flynn, and during this cavalry charge that they recreated, three extras in that movie died just in that one shot, that one scene. One of the guys was thrown from his horse, and he threw his sword, like, away from him. Unfortunately, he threw it ahead of himself, and the sword stuck into the ground handle first, and he was impaled on the sword. Wow.
This happened on a movie set. And it's not just like back in the day either. 1983, the Twilight Zone movie, very famously, there was a disaster, right? Yeah, that was very sad.
Chapter 8: What is the significance of creative control in movie productions related to curses?
That's when Vic Morrow and two children were chopped up by a helicopter blade. Right. Very infamously. It was a terrible, terrible tragedy. Yeah. Yeah, Shin-Yi Chan and Micah Din Lee were the two child actors who were killed. So things do happen on movie sets. And again, when you stop and think about what they're doing, it's often very dangerous.
So what Ed is saying is when you start to put these things together and then you get rid of all of the things that don't support your point, you got a curse on your hands. Should we start with Poltergeist? Yes.
Okay.
Poltergeist, that's one where people always list this as a cursed movie because quite a few of the actors died sort of unexpectedly after the movie. And then Ed goes on to say very astutely, but it's also a textbook example of why the idea of curses is silly. As I mentioned, the curses are silly. Over and over.
So three of those first three Poltergeists, 82, 86, and 88, I didn't see the remake, did you? I didn't even know there was one. Yeah, of course there was. They remade it a few years ago. No, I didn't see it. No, I don't think it was very popular. But Dominique Dunne, or Dominique, excuse me, her father was Dominique Dunne, correct? Yeah, and her brother was Griffin Dunne, or is Griffin Dunne.
Yeah, she was, well, she was murdered. She was murdered by her boyfriend. John Sweeney. Yeah, and that was a very disturbing case. Have you ever poked around that case? Yes. Like, the signs were all there. It was one of those things that could have been prevented. And he got away with it for the most part. He did like three years in prison.
And Dominic Dunn, her father, he was there every day for the trial of the man. Oh, yeah. just crushed by the injustice of the sentence that the guy received. Well, it changed his life. He became a crusader. It did, yeah.
You can read some of the best coverage of high-profile murder cases in the pages of Vanity Fair that he covered for years and years and years as a direct result of him basically covering his own daughter's murderous trial. Yeah, O.J. very famously did. He covered that case? Yeah, he did. And apparently the Dunns spent a great deal of time basically keeping tabs on John Sweeney for years.
He was a chef for a while. He was. And I even started tracking him down. I just went down the rabbit hole like six or eight months ago on this for some reason. Really? Yeah. This is one of those things where you see something on Facebook and then all of a sudden you go, oh, yeah, and then you go down the rabbit hole. And I was trying to find this guy. I was like, where is this guy? Where is he?
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