Short Stuff: "Peace" Pipes

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Hey, and welcome to The Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck, and Jerry's here for Dave, so it's The Short Stuff. And we're talking about what you might know as peace pipes, but as it turns out, that's not the right word for it at all. So, although we'll probably accidentally call it peace pipes a bunch of times, they're really called sacred or ceremonial pipes.

88.017 - 109.35 Jerry

That's right. That whole notion of passing the peace pipe is something that American settlers and soldiers saw. And they thought like, hey, they're smoking that thing during a treaty signing, so that must be a peace pipe. And while it's true that they might have smoked those during treaty signings, it turns out they smoked them a lot. So it's a bit of a misnomer.

109.837 - 133.702 Josh

Yeah, they come up in all sorts of different parts of Native American culture. Something I thought was really interesting is that I could not find a mention of any North American tribe that doesn't use ceremonial pipes. Yeah. up to the Midwest. I think they found it in the Hopewell culture in Ohio.

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468.903 - 492.143 Jerry

Yeah. You know, we talked about the pieces. There's that wooden stem. And then you've got your bowl. It's like an L-shaped bowl or a T-shaped bowl. And that is that pipestone. There are different colors of pipestone. So they're often very pretty pipes and pretty bowls. But there's one apparently that's a little more revered, and that's the red pipestone from Pipestone National Monument.

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which is southwest Minnesota. And apparently it's that particular pipestone is considered sacred by a lot of indigenous tribes.

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Yeah, like they'll come from all over North America to get the red pipestone. It's a kind of catlinite, which is a stone made from clay. And it's actually fairly easy to work with. But to get to it at Pipestone National Monument, number one, you have to get a permit. Number two, you can't get a permit unless you're enrolled in a North American tribe.

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And then number three, it's going to take you a while to get there because the red pipestone at that park only exists underneath a thick quartz layer. And you're only allowed to use hand tools like pickaxes, chisels, sledgehammers to get to it. And the park rangers recommend expecting to do at least a weekend's worth of work with multiple other people.

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but that some people end up having to get an annual pass because they have to just keep coming back and coming back to finally get to it. And can you imagine if you dedicated months to this and you came back for that last time, you're like, this is the one, and to find somebody else had just used the rest of your work, dug through it, and got to the red pipestone and you had to start over?