Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What happened to the German tourists in Death Valley?
It's a very popular place. But people do die in Death Valley National Park every year, every summer in particular. And between 2007 and 2024, 68 people died in Death Valley. That's a lot of people who died simply from being exposed to the local weather. They died of hyperthermia.
Most of them, I think 20 or not most, but 20 percent died of hyperthermia, which if you've ever been in a hot sauna that got too hot for your comfort, imagine dying from that. That's dying from hyperthermia. I think the rest who died from exposure died from dehydration because that can come on really quick, too.
Yeah, for sure. So a day after this minivan is discovered by a helicopter in Death Valley, the ranger came back with a local sheriff on the ground to check it out. Or maybe they flew out there. Who knows? But at any rate, at some point, their feet were on the ground. They opened the van up. Like I said, there were three flat tires. It was stuck up to its axles in the sand.
And they determined that it had driven for at least a couple of hundred feet on the flat tires. The whole thing was covered in dust. you know, clearly hadn't been, you know, seen by anyone else or disturbed.
That was the things you would expect to find from disappeared people on an adventurous vacation like this, like their luggage and their clothes, like nothing really weird, empty water bottles, empty juice containers, a couple of unopened bottles of Bud Ice beer. You remember that? Yeah, it dates this thing in the mid-90s. I was never into the ice beers.
No, I think if I remember correctly, it just got you more crunk than the average beer.
I feel like that was how they sold it. Who knows? I mean, that was before things like high-gravity beers really came to the forefront. So maybe it was like, you know, these things have an extra percentage of ABV.
Yeah, I think the slogan was Bud Ice, get you plastered.
I remember the dry beers, too. I thought it was fancy in college at one point because I was drinking Michelob Dry.
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Chapter 3: How did the family plan their trip to the United States?
He even faxed his ex-wife and said, hey, which also dates this, can you send more money? And she never responded.
Yeah, what I didn't get, and I didn't see anyone explain it, is why he was just like, oh, well, they sent it to the L.A. branch of Bank of America rather than San Clemente. I guess there's nothing I can do to go get it. He just never went and picked up the $1,500.
Well, maybe he didn't know. I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I would still spend some time trying to figure out where my $1,500, and it's about $3,000 in today's money. So it seems like he just shrugged it off from his actions. I just think that's really strange.
Yeah. I mean, it also could have been one of those things where they're like, well, sir, we don't know which bank it's in.
Stop bothering us.
And like we can find out in a week. Yeah, it could be. And, you know, they had a schedule. So who knows?
Yeah. So the long and short of it, though, is they were low on funds now. Right. And luckily, if you're going through national parks like Death Valley and Yosemite, and the only thing you're doing after that is making it back to the airport to turn in your car and take your flight home, you can get by on some pretty low funds. You can still buy some Bud Ice. It wasn't particularly expensive.
So they seem to kind of be making their way low on funds. And that actually helped track them a little bit further later on. But there was one other clue, too, and it was an American flag. And it had Butte Valley Stone Cabin on its label. That's where it belonged to in Death Valley. It's locally called the Geologist's Cabin.
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Chapter 4: What clues were found in the minivan after the disappearance?
And then just the sound of a Bud Ice cap being twisted off.
And somebody glugging it and then hitting the ground.
So they realize that they can't get through there. The only way to go is back. It would have been around, you know, between 1230 and 130 p.m. by this point, at least 105 degrees. So they backtrack to that geologist cabin. It's still locked. And this is what I meant earlier when what I don't understand. At this point, I don't understand why they didn't break into this cabin.
This is dire circumstances. And get some food and water.
Here's the thing. Tomahood explains this really well. He was saying, no, these are German tourists. They're safe in America. They're in a national park. To them, it was not a dire situation yet. That they were still on track. They were just having a little trouble. And the map that they had was misleading them all over the place. So he, being in Egbert's head... said Egbert made the decision.
Rather than go drive all the way back to the visitor's center to get out of the park in a way that you know how to do, but it's going to cost you many, many hours, and it's going to take a really long time to get to Yosemite, why would you not follow these roads on the map that are essentially a shortcut to Yosemite? It's going to take hours off of your trip.
If the map shows a road there, why would you not take it? And the problem is their map showed them roads that... either were really misleading and weren't really roads, or weren't roads at all. That was the map that Egbert was dealing with, and that was what ultimately got them killed.
Yeah, the one thing I couldn't find was what the gas situation was like in that car.
I didn't see that either.
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