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Switched on Pop

How a sci-fi dystopia became a personal utopia (ft. Arc Iris)

05 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the concept behind the iTMRW project?

2.326 - 28.755 Unknown

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30.068 - 59.637 Charlie Harding

Every week, Switched on Pop opens with a windup of tape loops, layers of vocals, and some very funky Moog synthesizers. Welcome to Switched on Pop. I'm songwriter Charlie Harding. That is our show's sonic identity that we documented on episode 401. We called it the biggest theme song fail. We gave our very outdated theme a little glow up with the help of musicians Jossie Adams and Zach Tenario.

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59.617 - 72.751 Charlie Harding

Jossie and Zach, alongside drummer Ray Belli, are in a band together called Arc Iris. They've been around as a group pretty much as long as we've been a podcast. They're genuinely some of the most talented musicians I've ever known and are a deep source of inspiration to me.

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73.252 - 85.185 Charlie Harding

Since you hear them every week on the show, I wanted to give you a chance to get to know Jossie and Zach through some of their music. Music that has helped me find a sense of hope to combat these dystopian times. I hope you'll feel the same.

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87.832 - 92.878 Zach Tenorio

Can we just start by, can I ask, who are you? My name is Zach Tenorio and I play keyboards with Arc Iris.

93.158 - 99.446 Jocie Adams

My name is Jossie Adams and I play bits and bobs and I sing and arrange and write for Arc Iris.

99.786 - 107.075 Zach Tenorio

And we make pretty wild music? Yeah.

108.837 - 115.105 Charlie Harding

You have a project coming out called iTomorrow that has been long in the works. What is iTomorrow?

115.253 - 131.518 Jocie Adams

iTomorrow is a hopeful yet quite dystopian futuristic concept record. It started as a performance art piece. In 2020, we had a performance of the performance art piece, or maybe I should call it a, what do we call it?

Chapter 2: How did the pandemic impact the premiere of iTMRW?

540.704 - 564.857 Charlie Harding

Exactly. And, you know, let's just recap. Mary, child, concerts, studio, this beautiful land that you've made. And finally, in a moment where perhaps our fears that could be realized the night tomorrow are most present, this work is finally arriving into the world. How does that feel?

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565.9 - 587.274 Jocie Adams

It is such a glorious feeling that this music is finally coming out because honestly, seven years later, it still feels fresh. It still feels good. And maybe because the meaning of all the songs is constantly shifting and and replugging itself into our current reality.

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587.895 - 590.98 Zach Tenorio

Very excited that it's coming out. It's a long time coming.

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593.137 - 601.695 Charlie Harding

Is there a song on iTomorrow that you feel like represents this moment for you that we could go out on?

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602.232 - 625.995 Jocie Adams

I mean, I would say that Dreamer of Dreams is really special in that I wrote the string arrangements and conducted the string players and sang it like one or two weeks away from giving birth. That also gave that piece a whole new life and a meaningfulness that it won't ever forget.

626.498 - 650.11 Ray Belli

be without is it with these things i hear the melodies your smile cheers my darling is it just another song that's built for me to sing along to always why do you smell like daylight

652.705 - 656.771 Charlie Harding

Then you gave birth, and pretty quickly, you were back in the studio.

657.832 - 681.666 Jocie Adams

I can see the moment. I was literally carrying Azzy in the recording studio. I was holding him with one hand, breastfeeding, conducting with the other hand, and the tenderness of the feeling. And actually, in the singing of that song, you can hear that my vocal cords are a little bit heavier and more swollen from my pregnancy.

682.878 - 702.253 Ray Belli

When I look from me to you Is it me about whom that I'm dreaming? You're my reflection It's me as perfection

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