Chapter 1: What inspired Emma Louise's return to music after eight years?
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Before we begin, I wanted to let you know that the conversation you're about to hear discusses mental health and suicide. If you need to sit this one out, I understand. What does redemption mean to you?
Chapter 2: What is the significance of the theme 'Before and After' in Emma's music?
Well, I mean, my first instinct is to Google the word redemption, but I'm not going to do that. LAUGHTER I'm like, what if I get it wrong?
Ever since we first heard Emma Louise and her debut single Jungle, she's shown all sides of herself, singing her story with a vulnerability and reflection that connects with us all. Last year, Emma released the collaborative album Dumb with producer Floom.
Chapter 3: How does Paul Simon's 'Still Crazy After All These Years' influence Emma's songwriting?
But it's been a good eight years since her last solo album, Until Now. This week she returns with Sunshine for Happiness, a record that was actually recorded in 2019. It's finally seeing the light of day and Emma joins me to take five. Welcome, Emma.
Chapter 4: What memories does Nick Drake's 'Pink Moon' evoke for Emma Louise?
Hi.
Welcome back, I should say.
Yeah, I can't believe it's been eight years. I've been telling people it's been six years, but I think I trust you.
Well, 2019. No, it is.
It's been, yeah, eight years.
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Chapter 5: What personal experiences led Emma to discover Bruno Mars' 'Versace on the Floor'?
I feel like time has also kind of warped in the last few years for very obvious reasons, large global events and stuff, but the idea of the last eight to ten years is all a bit of a fuzzy kind of three or four years for me. It is a bit of a blur. Yeah. A quick blur. Why did it take so long for this album to come out is my first question.
Well, a lot of life happened. I got married, had a kid. I got divorced.
Chapter 6: How does Dijon’s 'The Dress' resonate with Emma's journey of suffering and redemption?
I was living in America and it just didn't feel right. I went to release it a few times. I was like, okay, I'm ready. Let's go. And I think that I wasn't
ready i wanted to wait till i was back home because i i just moved back to australia how recently yeah right in december yeah i haven't even unpacked my all of the boxes and stuff well it's interesting to for reasons that we'll discover revisit this record because it comes at a very kind of pinch point in your life the making of this album for you as you get ready to release it to talk to people like me about it what's it like to return to that headspace of seven or eight years ago
It's pretty wild. I knew it was going to be, you know, bring up a lot, but it's truly like entering into a different realm.
Chapter 7: What role does Alice Coltrane's 'Govinda Jai Jai' play in Emma's emotional landscape?
It has just like unearthed all of this beautiful, but also painful stuff.
Chapter 8: How does Emma Louise feel about releasing her new album after personal struggles?
There's like the magic, you know, because when you record an album, especially the way that we did it, which is like we had two weeks in Bear Creek in Seattle and we A team of 10 people, all really good friends, making this record in a vortex away from the world. And like magic happened and it was so good.
Well, I told you sitting on the floor, my theory of the universe that God was before.
And I think that that magic, even though I didn't know it at the time, it kind of stayed in the music. And then I feel like relearning it now and I'm playing it and I'm like sinking into it. and I'm filled with joy, you know, this like old magic is still in it, you know. Yeah, and I do feel like I've reattached parts of myself and I'm walking around being like, ah, that's right.
But then also there's so much grief in there as well because like, you know, Toby and I. Who's Toby for anybody who doesn't know? Oh, sorry. Yeah, Toby is my ex-husband and also the producer of Lie Like Everything and Sometimes for Happiness. And the father of your child. And the father of my child. That is correct. We separated. We got divorced like three years ago.
And man, like when I started playing these songs again, it just all came up. Yeah. But I get excited when it comes up, you know, because... I've been waiting for it. I'm like, surely there's more to chew on. Like, I'm like, you know, I knew that there was like a bucket of unprocessed stuff.
Great. You're a therapist, a self therapist ready to poke the bear.
I do love therapy. Shout out to Rebecca, my therapist. I've seen her since I was 18. Like, I mean, I think therapy is like.
It helps. It's so good. Yeah. Well, people often talk about Take 5 as a sort of therapy. I'm not a doctor, but there's something about visiting songs that trigger things in us, whether it's a memory, a feeling, something that reaches out and connects with us when we need it most. And I've given you the theme of before and after for your take five. A lot has changed in you.
A lot has changed with the world, even in the process of making this record. So I'm really curious about why you've chosen these songs. Your first choice is from Paul Simon.
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