250: The US Declaration of Independence

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What is the Declaration of Independence and why is it being celebrated today?

Patrick Geoghegan 0:01
Talking History with Patrick Gagan. This is News Talk.
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We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender. And out of their silence came thousands of voices. The strategy of the white man has always been divide and conquer. It's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. August. August.
Patrick Geoghegan 0:31
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. 250 years ago, Thomas Jefferson and others changed the world by writing the American Declaration of Independence, and few words have shaped modern politics more profoundly. Good evening and welcome. We're Talking History on Newstalk 106 to 108 with me, Patrick Gagan. In tonight's show, 250 Years On, we're going to explore the impact and legacy of the American Declaration of Independence in the United States and around the world. And we'll explore whether the vision of a new world based on life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness was ever achievable. You can send us your thoughts and comments to talkinghistoryatnewstalk.com and we'd love to hear from you.
Patrick Geoghegan 1:26
The Declaration of Independence announced the birth of a new nation, but it also proclaimed universal principles that have inspired revolutions, reformers and freedom movements around the world. But it has always carried profound contradictions. How could a document declaring that all men are created equal emerge from a society built upon slavery? And so, two and a half centuries later, we're exploring how it remains a document at the centre of debates about democracy, citizenship, equality and the meaning of America itself. And so, to help me explore the origins, language, global impact and contested legacy of the American Declaration of Independence, I'm delighted to welcome our panel of experts.
Patrick Geoghegan 2:10
Professor Stephanie McCurry is the Professor of US History at Columbia University and is an expert on the American Civil War. And she was in Dublin during this week to speak on the legacy of the Declaration of Independence at the Trinity Long Room Hub. Professor Elijah Gould is a leading expert on the American Revolution. He's currently the Harmsworth Professor of American History at Queen's College, the University of Oxford, and is Professor of History at the University of New Hampshire. And his books include Among the Powers of the Earth, The American Revolution and the Making of a New World Empire. Professor Kathleen Burke is Emerita Professor of Modern and Contemporary History at University College London, an expert on Anglo-American relations, finance and foreign policy.
Patrick Geoghegan 2:52
She's the author of The Line and The Eagle, The Interaction of the British and American Empires, as well as Old World, New World, The Story of Britain and America. Well, you're all very welcome. And Stephanie, I might begin with you and a question about this document, this text, probably being the most iconic document in the history of the United States. One of the most impactful and some of the lines, some of the most iconic lines in American history.
Prof Stephanie McCurry 3:21
Well, that's for sure. I think I actually think about it as kind of the American creed, like no matter what happens to it in any political moment, it's going to survive. It's still going to be the touchstone of American life and aspiration to American life. It's taken a lot of damage over the years, but it's still standing and that all men are created equal with these inherent rights and But the other interesting thing to say maybe at the beginning is the inherent rights aren't they're a little bit they sound a little bit modern right the pursuit of happiness like if you asked us what's the pursuit of happiness you'd get a million different answers. It's an interesting question to think about what that meant in 1776 I mean maybe Elijah has a really sharp answer to that but.
Prof Stephanie McCurry 4:03
When I teach it, I always talk about how it's not a life, liberty, and the pursuit of property, which would have been the more Lockean approach to the social contract. And it's certainly United States is, as we all know, committed to the pursuit of property.

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