101. PPWR - why packaging will never be the same
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What is the main focus of this episode and how does it set the stage for the discussion?
Hello, welcome to Talking Rubbish, a weekly podcast delving deep into the world of recycling and discussing the truth behind snappy headlines and one-sided stories. In this episode, we will discuss PBWR. Are panini stickers rubbish or not? I have a question about hummus lids and how will eggs be packaged in our dream shop? I'm Jase Piper and I'm joined by Robbie Staniforth, my far from rubbish friend. Good morning, Robbie.
Hey, James. How are you today? Pretty relaxed, actually. This is a lot lower pressure environment than the live episode, so feeling relaxed.
Apart from the heatwave that we are experiencing in this very hot room. Relaxed yet extremely hot. So if you want to see Robbie and I in our shorts, You've got to look at the video because we've moved to video. Absolutely. So this is a good reminder that we've moved to video. And if you're listening to us on Apple, Spotify or YouTube, you can unlock your phone now or device and you'll be able to see our faces, which is very exciting. A funny thing happened, speaking of video, when we were recording episode 100 because we recorded episode 100 live and we had some people, right, this is a bit behind the scenes, we had some people hidden In the house next door.
Oh, yes. Okay. Watching.
Yeah. And we'd said to them, if we have any technical glitches, any issues, can you make sure that you just send us a text so that we can quickly solve it?
Yeah.
But we had forgotten or neglected, I should say, to tell them... that we were going to do a jokey glitch at the beginning. You know, we were going to cut to our faces frozen. We were going to say, oh, no, something's gone wrong. And we'd forgotten to tell them that. And so as soon as the episode finished recording, I went next door and they were like, how dare you? We were all ready to text. We were panicking. We were going to run in the studio and say, it's not working.
I'd forgotten all about that.
How does the Packaging and Packaging Waste Regulation (PPWR) change the EU packaging landscape?
It was definitely a little bit last minute. Those last 10 minutes just got eaten up before we went live. And yeah, the glitch screen, I'm sure they must have been panicking much more than we were.
Yeah, so I'm very sorry to our friends who we did not inform we would be doing that.
We are on the edge of one of the biggest overhauls of packaging rules in modern history. I think it's fair to say that. This is across the EU. I'm not going to say worldwide.
Across the EU. Do you agree? Yeah, definitely. And I think possibly worldwide, isn't it? Packaging rules, at least, it's got a massive impact on the whole of the EU bloc. And if you look at other countries that are just as big, lots of packaging like the USA, they're doing it all state by state. So, yeah, in terms of affecting so many countries, it probably is the biggest shift.
And it's fair to say when you have a change as big as this, not everyone is going to be happy about it. And that's really what we want to talk about today under the umbrella of PPWR.
Oh, yes.
Which I can't believe it's taken us 100, well, we're on episode 101, so 101 episodes to get to this massive topic, PPWR. Absolutely. And look, just to pre-empt this, it will have lots and lots of episodes because there's loads of timings for things coming out. There's loads of rules and regs. So we're just sort of going to give a bit of a history, some challenges, and some of the immediate... things that are happening in the regulation. But we will have more episodes as more and more deadlines come out.
Yeah, I think trying to explain the whole of the magnitude of the packaging and packaging waste regulation in a 25-minute trash talk is biting off way more than we can chew. So this is probably just a starter for 10.
Yeah, and we have regulations going all the way to the 1st of January 2040. So Robbie, if we were still doing this podcast, 1st of Jan 2040, what episode do you think we'd be recording? Hundreds. Hundreds. 750. 750? You are very close. I mean, you're not within my, what did I say last week, within two episodes. banding you're not quite there but episode 805 805 so we will have just celebrated episode 800 oh my word we're not committing to that are we no we will and we will look weathered we'll need bigger studio lights to hide the wrinkles that have developed from our stress i think i'll look as bald as you
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main focus of this episode and how does it set the stage for the discussion?
0:00–2:01
2
How does the Packaging and Packaging Waste Regulation (PPWR) change the EU packaging landscape?
2:01–31:00
3
What recent additions and corrections were announced for the PPWR rollout?
31:00–37:54
4
Are Panini World Cup stickers considered rubbish or recyclable?
37:54–46:47
5
Why did manufacturers remove lids from hummus and dip containers and does it save plastic?
46:47–51:44
6
How would eggs be packaged in an ideal ‘dream supermarket’ under the new rules?
51:44–55:08
7
What is the ‘Residual Rubbish’ segment and why does it matter for listeners?
55:08–59:03
Speakers
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