Why might the UK’s Deposit Return Scheme be free for drinks brands for its first 15 months? We dig into the surprising finances behind DRS, from producer fees and the value of recycled material to the huge sums generated by unclaimed 20p deposits. Using Ireland’s scheme and the UK Government’s own forecasts, we ask who will really pay for DRS, why lower return rates can actually make the system more money, and whether there’s an uncomfortable tension at the heart of how the scheme is funded.Plus, is Smint packaging rubbish or not, which council provides the highest quantity of bins, how will tomato ketchup be packaged in our dream shop, and why are James and Robbie excited about reusable packaging?Join hosts James Piper and Robbie Staniforth as they delve into the world of recycling, hopefully having fun along the way. One thing is for sure, they will talk absolute rubbish from start to finish.To see James and Robbie live at London Packaging Week, get your free ticket here. Please take a moment to complete the Simpler Recycling trackerWe would love you to join our community on DiscordSpecial thanks to our sponsor, EcosuretyTo get exclusive videos and clips, follow us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads or Facebook; @rubbishpodcast or YouTube: @talkingrubbishpodcastOr you can contact James and Robbie with questions or just general rubbish musings using the email address [email protected] or by texting them via WhatsApp on 07356 069 232Relevant links and reports mentioned in the programme can be found on the Talking Rubbish Linktr.eeTranscripts and episodes can be found on the Talking Rubbish websiteTimestamps:Why the UK Deposit Return Scheme is free for brands - 01:00Additions and corrections - 30:45Rubbish or Not: Smint container - 35:53Rubbish News - 40:37Which council provides the highest quantity of bins? - 44:49Green Grocer: tomato ketchup - 50:31Residual Rubbish - 55:54Send us a message directly… Music licence ID: 6WPY8Q4O2RPFIOTL

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