96. How recycling is really funded
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What is the PRN system and how does it fund UK recycling?
Hello, welcome to Talking Rubbish, a weekly podcast, delving deep into the world of recycling and discussing the truth behind snappy headlines and one-sided stories. In this episode, we will discuss the evolution of the PRN system. Is expanded PE rubbish or not? And I have a question about whether fruit and veg stickers are compostable. I'm James Piper, author of the rubbish book, and I'm joined by Robbie Stanaforth. My far from Mother Spread. Good morning, Robbie. Hey James.
How are you today? Yeah, very good. Thank you. Yeah. Looking forward to yet another one. This is Home Turf, PRN stuff. So if we can't talk compellingly for 30 minutes on PRNs, there's no hope for me.
Yes. Although I did feel there's too many acronyms in that intro. If you've tuned into us for the first time. Oh yeah. The hell? The evolution of the PRN system is expanded P E rubbish or not that it's all acronyms. If you're new here, we'll walk you through it. It's all good. You don't need to listen to anything else first. James, guess what happened this week? Go on, tell me. I was spotted by a fan. It's actually happened. It's happened in the wild. What was the review where because we had a review recently, didn't we?
We what episode was that? We did, and it it wasn't that person though, who said sometimes they see me walking around the docks when they're uh walking along listening to the podcast. It wasn't that person because I did check whether they had written in before and they said no, they've never left the review or anything. So yes, I was in my local park for an evening stroll after dinner, walking along, made eye contact with someone on a bicycle flying past and was a bit sort of like, do I know that person? I don't think I do. And they stopped a bit further down the road, turned back and said, Are you Robbie from Talking Rubbish?
Yeah.
To which I was like, Yes, I am, and shook their hand and stopped for a little chat. They're a recent new listener, uh new BIMFluencer even. And uh yeah, they're just about up to date with all of the episodes. They've been listening to the back catalogue and just got a few more to go until they're live. So I wonder when they'll be hearing this shout-out. Uh it was a guy called Charlie. It will be probably in a couple of weeks' time, I imagine, when they get around to listening to it. But it was very nice. And do come and say hello if you ever spot me in the wild. It was not that weird at all. It was very nice to chat to someone and he he really loved the podcast. He's was like, It's so influential, and I'm really thinking about moving into a career that's got a more sustainable edge to it as a consequence of the podcast.
So that was lovely to him.
That's amazing. Hello Charlie from Bristol. And remember, if you want to see Robbie in person without having to stalk him in the park, we are running a live event for the release of episode a hundred. I'm not suggesting Charlie was stalking you in the park, actually. Like I that sounded a bit bad, didn't it? Uh huh. I mean please, please talk to us. It's great. But if you want to see us in a more formal setting, which will be informal, uh, we're going to be in a pub or restaurant or something on the 25th of June to celebrate episode 100. So if you want to do that, there should be a link to the Eventbrite in the show notes. I've heard some false information about this event because Oh, really? Yes, because what Eventbrite does is
it looks at your past events and says how many guests you've had at previous events to sort of tell people that you're a legitimate organizer. So if you've held an event and a thousand people have gone, it'll put your profile name and then a thousand people. Sort of looks like you've got a thousand people coming to the event that you're inviting everyone to. So uh unfortunately with the profile that I've used for this event, I did we did previously do an event where a hundred and fifty people came. So it does make it look like a hundred and fifty people are coming to this uh this little drink thing, which at the moment is not true.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the PRN system and how does it fund UK recycling?
0:01–6:39
2
How do PRNs differ from EPR fees and why does that matter for brands?
6:39–13:33
3
Why does the price of PRNs fluctuate and what impact does that have on brand budgets?
13:33–23:06
4
What are the proposed changes in the government consultation on PRNs?
23:06–31:39
5
How could cancelling PRNs affect recyclers and brands?
31:39–38:56
6
Is expanded polyethylene (foam) recyclable or should it be thrown away?
38:56–44:49
7
Are fruit‑and‑vegetable stickers compostable or recyclable?
44:49–52:49
8
What is the compliance fee proposal and why is it controversial?
52:49–59:16
Speakers
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