99. Why cartons aren't being recycled
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Why are cartons considered a sustainable packaging choice?
Hello, welcome to Talking Rubber, show weekly podcast delving deep into the world of recycling and discussing the truth behind snappy headlines and one-sided stories. In this episode, we will discuss why cartons are now less likely to get recycled. Are sports shell wrappers rubbish or not? And I have a question about whether cans with textured printing can be recycled. I'm James Piper, author of the rubbish book, and I'm joined by Robbie Stanaforth, my far from rubbish friend. Good morning, Robbie. Hey James. How are you today? Oh, excited.
Number 99. Can't believe it.
I know we're there. We're there we're there. And um it's gonna be a bit weird, isn't it? 'Cause if you tuned in live for episode a hundred, that was yesterday. Um I hope it went well. We're obviously recording this before we do that. Oh god. I am so confused. I'm gonna have to make sure I don't put out the wrong episode 'cause there is a real risk. I get this wrong. But if you did tune in yesterday, you will know that we are in a studio. And we've built a studio for our podcast. And if you didn't tune in, you'll see this next week. That means this is our last recording in our little booths. We're actually gonna be in the same room from now on, Robbie.
I know, yeah, it's gonna be a totally different dynamic.
I'm excited.
It's gonna be so good.
Of course I'm excited, but we have actually done it yesterday, but that's
I was excited yesterday, I think. Yeah.
Anyway, speaking of live events, I went to an event this week at Silverstone and I had the opportunity to talk about the podcast to a load of brands and retailers. And about fifty percent of the audience listened, and I hope I convinced the other fifty percent to listen, which means they'll really enjoy this anecdote because they were there. To experience this embarrassment live. Before I get into the embarrassing bit though, although you could class this bit as embarrassing, a lady came up to me as I arrived and said, I love the podcast. Oh, a massive fan. It's so good to meet you, et cetera. It was really lovely. She went, I was actually listening to the latest episode on the way here. Now, at the time, the latest episode was the PRN episode, episode ninety six.
So I said, Well, what did you think of it? She went, Oh, it's very boring. You're screwed. You have got to love and appreciate the honesty of our influencers. I can't I loved it and thank you so much for listening. And I know you enjoy the podcast and PRNs are not for everyone. We understand that. feel like we qualified it by saying, We're doing this because a influencer has asked for it.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
Anyway, the embarrassing bit other than that is I arrived to do this presentation and I arrived saying, Can I add in a slide? And they said, Oh look you know, we've set it up on the computer, it might mess up the tech. Are you okay not to add in the slides? I was like, Yeah, yeah, it's fine. But that meant I did something I've never done. Which is I didn't go and look at my presentation. Normally when I arrive at a venue, you just have a quick flick through, don't you? Just check everything's okay. And I didn't do that because I just uh because I was slightly distracted by the fact that I wasn't gonna add this slide. Another reason I didn't feel the need to flick through this is because the organizers had said they loved my slides.
So I thought, oh great, everyone's happy. They must be good. Very kind of them. Stand up to do my presentation. I very, very very quickly realized it was the wrong one. Partly because the slide I wanted to add in was there. What?
How did the multi‑layer design of cartons evolve and why did it become popular?
So I I deleted it and then decided I wanted to put back in. So I just realized very quickly this was a very, very early draft of my notes and not the polished, you know, presentation that you would expect from me, Robbie, with lots of videos and nice pictures. Now, it's completely my own fault. I love to play videos when I do I don't really do slides, but what I do is put up loads of videos. It meant the file was like a gig and what had happened is Google Drive hadn't synced.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why are cartons considered a sustainable packaging choice?
0:01–3:32
2
How did the multi‑layer design of cartons evolve and why did it become popular?
3:32–8:33
3
What materials make up a typical beverage carton and how are they layered?
8:33–15:43
4
Why is recycling cartons so technically challenging in the UK?
15:43–34:30
5
What happened to the UK’s only carton‑recycling facility and why?
34:30–43:56
6
How are councils adapting their collection programmes after the facility shut down?
43:56–54:17
7
Are energy‑gel wrappers and heavily printed cans recyclable?
54:17–57:36
8
What can consumers do now to improve carton recycling rates?
57:36–59:54
Speakers
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