Kyle Thiermann (Surfer, Author, Young Dude)
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Who is Kyle Thiermann and why does the host keep giving him clothes?
Radio Mano, Papá Chango.
Yo yo yo what's up? Welcome to Tangentially Speaking your weekly dose of whatever the hell this is the dose of. This episode is with one of my favorite young dudes. It's the guy I think of when I hear that song, All the Young Dudes. He's a young dude and always will be a young dude in my eyes. Mr Kyle Tierman, big wave surfer. sponsored Patagonia athlete, man of great generosity who seems to um give me a piece uh an article of clothing every time I see him. Uh I need to be careful not to express admiration for his shirts and jackets because he'll take them off right there in public and hand them to me. It's a it's an endearing trait. It's I I like giving clothes to people, so And Kyle's one of the only uh people who gives me clothes.
It's um I feel like among women that's probably a more uh common uh gesture of affection, you know, if if a if a woman expresses uh great admiration for another woman's clothing, do they give the clothing to each other? I don't know. I feel I I have a very um This might come across as sort of self aggrandizing, I don't mean it that way. And hear me out. Hear me out. Uh I I've always had an instinctive feeling of um Like a uh what's the word? I think it's utilitarianism i is a feeling of like if something is giving you more value than it gives me. And you're part of my tribe. Then you should have it. And it's not like It's not like uh, you know, because I'm some Jesus figure.
What does the conversation reveal about our built‑in pro‑social impulse and why we should give things away?
It's just like we should all there it's almost like at the core of what's Lenin's aphorism, or maybe it was Mark's, from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs. You know, this feeling of like You know, if I'm stronger Then I should Carry heavier things, Right. I feel like there's just like an instinctive impulse toward justice, uh, that we humans have, um, that is squelched out of us, it's trained out of us in capitalist societies, but it still pops up here and there, you know, like the impulse to help a uh an old lady cross the street or to you know, if you see a kid fall into a swimming pool, you just run over and fish 'em out. You don't stand around and, you know, calculate risks or, you know, if that kid has any of your genetic legacy or any of this bullshit.
It's it's there is a pro social, a deeply pro social impulse in our species. And uh don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise. And I think one of the expressions of that is this. Like if I'm wearing a jacket that to me is like, yeah, it's a nice jacket, but whatever, I have lots of jackets and I'm with somebody that I care about and he's like, dude, I love that jacket. That la oh, that's such a cool jacket. My impulse is to say, Take the jacket. Hey, you know, you'll get more pleasure out of it than I'm getting. That just makes sense. I don't think that's I don't think that's saintly behavior. I think it just makes sense and I think it's kind of at the core of the hunter gatherer ethos that our species evolved in.
Um You know, if there's limited food, but you're way hungrier than I am, then yeah, you eat m you eat the food. Uh you know, I can hold out longer. That way we both do well. And I d I do feel like that's an overlooked and uh extremely important aspect of human nature. We we all hear about, oh, you know, the hum The fucking Hobbsy and nastiness and and selfishness and and the brutality and all that. Well, you know, that gets played up a lot. Um, but I think we need to Pay a lot more attention. To the aspects of human nature that are That come to our aid, that are not trying to destroy us and the world around us. Anyway, that's a tangent for ya. All I'm saying is that Kyle's a nice guy and I love him and I feel uh loved by him, which is the basis of a of a beautiful friendship and uh if you spin it out on a larger scale, the basis of a beautiful society and um
God knows we need a lot more of that right now, 'cause it's spinning in the other direction. I'll get into all that in aroma. I don't want to contaminate this lovely conversation with young Kyle. with my thoughts on war and economics and AI and all the other shit that's been bubbling in my consciousness here low these last couple of weeks when I was on the road.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Who is Kyle Thiermann and why does the host keep giving him clothes?
0:00–2:28
2
What does the conversation reveal about our built‑in pro‑social impulse and why we should give things away?
2:28–8:27
3
How does bird‑watching in New York help break the cycle of rumination and digital doom‑scrolling?
8:27–14:09
4
What is Kyle’s new book “One Last Question Before You Go” and why should listeners order it?
14:09–1:02:22
5
Why do makers often struggle with collaboration and sensitivity?
1:02:22–1:13:48
6
What does the legendary smoke‑jumper’s decision to stay in the air teach us about purpose versus promotion?
1:13:48–1:31:48
7
How does the ‘follow your bliss’ mindset clash with career identity, money, and competence?
1:31:48–1:47:50
8
What does the new book concept reveal about interviewing parents and redefining success?
1:47:50–2:01:39