Suspension of the rules. - Isaac, Kmele and Ari talk about the historic speech at the UN General Assembly, Nikole Hannah-Jones and Hassan Piker.
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What made the United Nations General Assembly speech historic this week?
Coming up, a historic speech at the United Nations General Assembly. We talk about that very, very viral Nicole Hannah-Jones piece in the New York Times and then share some reflections on Hassan Piker saying that Al-Qaeda is pound for pound the same as the United States. It's a very good episode. You're going to enjoy it.
Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Suspension of the Rules podcast, a place where you get some political dialogue without having your hair lit on fire by a bunch of loudmouth pundits. I'm your host, Isaac Saul. Tangles executive editor and founder, joined as always by Ari Weitzman, our managing editor, and Camille Foster. Editor at large. Gentlemen, uh, how are we doing? We're in the throes of a United Nations assembly, which I suppose. I was gonna say it's cider
season, but yeah, we'll talk about the UN, I guess.
Yeah.
The Manhattan Manhattan traffic makes it very clear what's happening in the city.
Yeah. Fall fall is falling just outside of the city out here in uh northern New Jersey. It is was like a beautiful, crisp, sunny um morning, fall morning here, and now has warmed up. And I know in the next two hours we'll get cold precipitously. Uh speaking of cold, cold feelings, gentlemen, chilly out of the colour. Something very extraordinary. Something very extraordinary happened today. Uh Iran's president addressed the United Nations Assembly, which On its own, not an extraordinary event happens every year. But this year it was the first time that a sitting United Nations Assembly sat in New York City watching the head of state of a nation that was actively at war with the United States address the assembly.
Yeah, at war, in quotes, because we're not at war, of course. That was the first time this has ever happened, uh, which I I thought was a remarkable fact and um concurrently set up a remarkable situation where on Tuesday Президент Дональ Трам адрес за сайм асамбли. He delivered pretty in you know typical Trumpian remarks, just basically saying. Iran had a choice between annihilation and being brought into the twenty first century. He did not really specify what the options on the table for them were, but uh he did say they have an opportunity to negotiate or see the destruction of their country. And then we had the president of Iran speak. today on Wednesday as we're recording this.
So it's a little bit of breaking news. I've not read the full transcript. I watched sort of on my computer while doing some other work and caught some remarks from it. But the overall sentiment I got from the speech is that this war is not ending anytime soon. The president of Iran made it very clear: we will not be bullied. We are not going to be pummeled into submission. We're here to negotiate. We're open to negotiations. But we are not the terrorists. Israel is the terrorist. The United States are the terrorists. We are not going to succumb to a country telling us what to do while they're bombing us. He also said that they'll never give up their civilian nuclear program, which is obviously a pretty key negotiating point given that Trump says this entire war is about preventing them from ever having a a nuclear bomb.
Civilian nuclear program different from military nuclear program, but In the eyes of the West, or is pursuit of those things basically the same? Probably. So just very bad signal. Uh, I would say yesterday on Tuesday, when Trump gave his address, he also sort of Tacitly acknowledged that this war was not ending anytime soon. He spoke about how Iran and Iranian leadership were waiting for the midterm elections, which you might know are in November. That's six weeks from now, and that they want to see how he does in the midterms. And he basically called Iran's strategy out on stage, saying that, you know, they're sitting around waiting to see how the midterms end up in order to decide how they're going to deal with Trump.
And he delivered the message to them that whatever happens in the midterms doesn't matter.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What made the United Nations General Assembly speech historic this week?
0:00–9:17
2
Why did Nicole Hannah‑Jones write a New York Times essay about possibly betraying her own child?
9:17–20:09
3
How do the hosts weigh school‑choice, race and class when deciding where to send their kids?
20:09–31:56
4
What is Hassan Piker’s controversial claim comparing the United States to Al‑Qaeda?
31:56–42:05
5
Why do the hosts argue the comparison between the U.S. and Al‑Qaeda is flawed?
42:05–51:28
6
What quick grievance round do the hosts use to vent about everyday annoyances?
51:28–1:00:55
7
How does the conversation shift to the impact of global conflicts on everyday life?
1:00:55–1:10:25
8
What are the final takeaways and closing thoughts from this episode?
1:10:25–1:15:37