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What is Gemini 3 and why is its launch important?
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Gemini 3 Pro, Google's most intelligent model yet, with state-of-the-art reasoning, next level vibe coding, and deep multimodal understanding. Let's hear it for our sponsor, Google AI Studio, Gemini, launching Gemini 3. Uh obviously deeply conflicted, but uh we're gonna have a fun conversation about the big launch today. Google is of course a sponsor of TBPN, uh, but uh we'll take you through all the reactions and we're gonna get some conversations going with other folks in the industry. We have Mike New from ARCAGI coming on the show in just 30 minutes to break down how Gemini 3 is benchmarking. Um Um, I actually think that there's there's two sides to analyzing a model release these days. One is uh you benchmark it, you use it, you test it, you demo it.
Um, and that has been getting less and less interesting. It's very incremental. Uh the more interesting thing is how do the other labs respond? Yeah. And today we're gonna go through a little bit of both of that uh of those things. Obviously Um the big news, at least in from my reading on it, is that uh Gemini 3 performs very well on ArcAGI V2, uh, a huge jump, twice the performance of the previous state of the art. Um, and so and also some interesting findings. Mike's gonna break it all down for us, but uh it's definitely a smarter model. Um, and there's a whole bunch of interesting uh there's a whole bunch of interesting ways to To show that, to demo that, to quantify that. Uh, but ultimately, I don't think anyone's making the claim that this is super intelligence.
This is uh, you know, a step change from what we've experienced before. It's what you know and love. It's it's AI in chat, it answers things, it writes some code for you, it can do a bunch of cool things. But there's nothing that we're like, oh, it can finally do this completely. Yeah, it can do a bunch of cool stuff. Tyler, how do you respond to that complaining?
Um the model's like really good. I I think um probably the most important thing, and this is kind of shown by the arc scores. Um Well kind of. But it it's like the the Uh visual understanding the the computer use that you can use. Um basically on there's some benchmarks that that measure this, like how well can it navigate a you know, website or something like this. Um and it's like basically the models went from being like really, really bad at this and now this model is like solid. It's like reasonably good. Yeah. So it's like, okay, maybe this is what gives us agents finally. Yeah. Um and that would be like an actual step change and Yeah.
Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Well yeah, I think we'll have to see. I mean it still feels like even for that even for that example, like we need some scaffolding, we need some wrapping around it. Uh it's not like You can't it it it's not like it's not like yesterday we weren't able to do something with AI and today in vanilla Gemini three you can just do it. It's just a new functionality
necessary. Sure, I I think it's it's like it's better it's better as good as we would want to expect if if it like i it's not slowing down, I I would say. No, no, no. No, no,
no, no, no, not at all. It's not slowing down. It's just that uh it is it is getting better. Uh it may mean it might be it it the the it's growing but decelerating. Is that fair to say?
Um or we ext I don't actually know that it's uh I don't think it's that big of a dealer. Say the word D cell. Say this is a great model. I'm I'm very excited about this.
I agree. It is the best possible. Uh I was framing it in somewhat of the same way as the as the iPhone launches. Like it's the it's newer, better, smarter, faster, stronger, newer, and better. And it's like it is all of those things, which is good. You don't want to go backwards, but is the but like we're waiting to see on the net new capabilities. On the on the binary step changes.
I I I think over the next week or two we'll see some stuff.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is Gemini 3 and why is its launch important?
0:00–15:30
2
How does the team test Gemini 3’s new abilities with humor and UI generation?
15:30–1:03:53
3
How did Sweetgreen get started and grow its restaurant footprint?
1:03:53–1:18:04
4
What is the Infinite Kitchen and how is automation reshaping Sweetgreen’s service model?
1:18:04–1:48:30
5
How are robotics, drone delivery, and airships expected to impact food service and data‑center infrastructure?
1:48:30–2:06:26
6
What new group chat and product features has OpenAI introduced to ChatGPT?
2:06:26–3:04:47
7
How does Vanta’s Agentic Trust Platform aim to secure AI‑driven enterprise workflows?
3:04:47–3:09:51
8
What is Lambda’s strategy for scaling AI infrastructure with vertical integration and new funding?
3:09:51–3:19:29
Speakers
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