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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Jordi Hays 0:01
Mm. Uh we got some debates on the timeline. I f I identified four debates for you you you don't want to call them debates though. You want to call 'em arguments, fights. I
John Coogan 0:10
thought arguments.
Jordi Hays 0:11
Okay, we're throwing down. We're throwing down.
John Coogan 0:13
Wouldn't wouldn't someone rather listen to an argument than a debate? Okay.
Jordi Hays 0:17
First one, Microsoft. Is Microsoft about to have their Muse moment? They've launched Copilot. Now they're launching a new product today. Is it gonna be a breakout success? Is it gonna compete directly with Meta and Muse? Or will it be a different thing entirely because it lives in the enterprise that lives in the Microsoft ecosystem? Let's go to Take Kim.

Is Microsoft’s new Autopilot product a threat to Meta’s Muse?

Jordi Hays 0:38
He says shots fired. Pum pum pum. Microsoft will go after Meta's Muse. News from Alex Heath's interview of Satya Nadella, he's doing the rounds. Quote from Alex Heath. He wants to bring autopilot's AI chief of staff to your personal life too. It's not staying in XL, it's not staying in Outlook. It's gonna be cooking dinner.
John Coogan 0:57
Big move going from a co pilot to autopilot. Autopilot. Yeah, this is it it says a lot about their intentions with the product.
Jordi Hays 1:03
Yeah, yeah. It is actually sort of the like uh is this AGI, is this not AGI? Like if you're in the co pilot mode, you're sort of signaling we're not really in the AGI era. Autopilot feels more like Uh although it's a term, it's a vague definition, it is significant in the brand term. So it's a hardened version of OpenClaw. The agent gets its own computer, workspace, and memory to work continuously. Virtual machine for everybody. Uh it'll have its own computer, workspace, and memory to work continuously. When I ask about Microsoft's consumer strategy, he points to its 100 million plus. Consumer subscribers. Microsoft Broadly, they're going all in with autopilot. Autopilot should also go to the consumer side.
Jordi Hays 1:49
He sees consumer agents potentially cutting out today's middlemen, making that market more zero sum. In the enterprise, he thinks agents will make the market bigger than cloud by orders of magnitude. We got room to run. Satcha said it himself.

How will Microsoft’s Autopilot change enterprise and consumer AI strategy?

Jordi Hays 2:07
He's going to 300 T, $300 trillion company. I like it. I like it. What do you think? What do you think?
John Coogan 2:12
So first thought is that again, everyone is building the exact same thing. Yep. So we we went through this for the last few years where everyone was a chat app. Everyone's building that. The funny thing
Jordi Hays 2:22
is th is is the lore on GPT four, that was first available in Bing. G P T four, the thing that like GPT three three uh GPT three point five powered the original chat GPT, GPT four was only available through Bing. Uh and then everyone was like, Oh, I guess like Microsoft's gonna make a play and Bing's gonna be doing AI and like this is gonna be a challenger to Google and then they sort of like pulled back. But
John Coogan 2:45
Well and at that time when Microsoft was backing up the Brinks truck or open AI, they certainly I don't think it was it certainly was non obvious at that time that they would be creating a company that they would ultimately compete with as much as they are, you know, partners. Yeah. So
Jordi Hays 3:01
Uh Peter Steinberger, the founder of OpenClaw, chimed in and said, Microsoft shipped a really compelling product on top of OpenClaw today. We worked with them since March to make the code base ready for large scale deployments. And of course, there might be some IP sharing agreement, right? Because didn't oh no, because OpenAI hired Peter, but they didn't acquire OpenClaw. OpenClaw still is open source. Yeah. So anyone can build on top of it. Yeah. But what's odd is that I think Nat Friedman stated that they didn't fork open claw. They built something from scratch, but there are just conventions and so you wind up having similar looking.md files. It's just like if you build an e commerce site, you're gonna have a product detail page.
Jordi Hays 3:40
You might have a similar site map and a and architecture. It doesn't mean that you forked Shopify to do that or whatever. So the The the debate point is how big will this be? How what is the actual impact to Microsoft? There is the cool macro tech story, which is just that the models have advanced to a point where there is a new use case.

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