Power, water and place: what makes the optimal data center location? | Andrew DesRochers
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Why does latency tolerance matter for sustainable data‑center design?
Sam Sam Sam, as you know, we talk about the impact that AI has had on our organizations and our infrastructure quite a lot on this show.
Mm-hmm.
This is a technology podcast after all. Do you remember Dial Up Internet? Oh
yeah, then the noise. Ugh.
We talked about it on the show before. My dial up internet has sounded like somebody doing a sick electric guitar solo, but yours sounded less exciting.
No, it sounded like a the screams of a robot.
Oh my goodness. The screams of a robot is the perfect Ah Yeah, you're right. Anyway, do you remember in the days of dial up internet, we expected things to load slowly and I think we had more patience, but as the technology improved and things got faster, we expect immediate answers. However, have you noticed that actually the way that we wait for answers with AI chatbots, they take time to think and answer the question.
So in a way like we've come full circle and we're reintroducing patients back into the system.
We have. And this expectation of latency has given designers a bit more leeway when it comes to being able to design new data centers and infrastructure sustainably. Because if people are willing to wait a few seconds for an answer, we can move the processing to somewhere which may be less of a drain on local power or water supplies.
So we're talking about sustainability today then.
Yes, we are talking about sustainability today. I'm Michael Byrd.
I'm Sam Gerrell.
And welcome to Technology Now from HPU.
Now, for a long time, when we've talked about the impacts of AI, we focused on just how much energy they used. However, in the past few years or so, the conversation has begun to shift a bit.
Right, because it's not just about how much power we need to run these models, is it? The data centers that also house our AI need to be kept cool, and that means we also must talk about water.
Yeah, exactly. It's a bit of a hot topic at the moment, isn't it? And the way that we cool our data centers can vary dramatically based on location, for example.
How much water do modern AI‑focused data centres actually consume?
So it's generally much easier to keep everything at a nice cold temperature here in the UK than it is for you in parts of sunny California.
Yeah, that's true, but also this can be a slightly prickly topic to talk about, as we mentioned, and for a very good reason. People are understandably worried about the impact that a new data center might have on them if one were to open up nearby.
Yeah, very true. And it can also be difficult to actually separate fact from fiction when it comes to working out what's actually going on. So, to get a bit more of an insight into how data centers can be run and scaled up sustainably, I met with Andrew DeRocha, a principal technologist for sustainable transformation at HPE. And I started off by asking him just how much water is actually used in the deployment. deployment and day-to-day running of a data center. So
That's really the difficult part, is we don't have an exact number because not only do we estimate that every data center is different, we can't say that a large AI training data center can be even comparable to maybe a smaller enterprise grade data center, vastly different qualities, and not all of them are necessarily consuming water as a resource. There's also not a lot of good transparency in to that data, right? Operators aren't necessarily tracking their water consumption if they are consuming water and they're not being transparent about that data. So we don't have those numbers today. And I think that lack of transparency is where a lot of that scrutiny that we're hearing today is coming from.
What I don't understand is why data centers consume water. I mean, I I understand you would initially fill up a loop. You put some coolant in it, some anti biological growth. That feels like that should be a closed loop. So where is the water usage actually happening?
Yeah, so that's the interesting part, right? For folks that are not fully immersed in the space and are excuse the pun. And aren't necessarily thinking about liquid cooling or enterprise technology cooling in general every day, they may hear liquid in the name liquid cooling and think, oh, well, that's where my water consumption is going.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why does latency tolerance matter for sustainable data‑center design?
0:00–2:10
2
How much water do modern AI‑focused data centres actually consume?
2:10–4:55
3
What are the main cooling methods and why is evaporative cooling controversial?
4:55–7:35
4
How can geography and climate reduce power and water usage in data centres?
7:35–9:51
5
Why is transparency with local communities essential for new data‑center projects?
9:51–12:52
6
What role does renewable energy and dry‑air cooling play in next‑generation facilities?
12:52–15:40
7
How might regulations on energy and water shape future data‑center locations?
15:40–18:04
8
What is the long‑term vision for efficiency‑by‑design in data‑center operations?
18:04–20:06
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