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The Pope vs. AI? It’s Complicated - Week in Tech

29 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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131.69 - 147.842 Oz Veloshian

Welcome to Tech Stuff. I'm Oz Veloshian, and this is The Week in Tech, where I'm joined by the most plugged-in reporters to break down what's really happening in tech right now. Today, we're joined by Natasha Tiku, tech reporter for The Washington Post, and Kyle Chaker, who writes the Infinite Scroll newsletter for The New Yorker.

Chapter 2: What did the Pope mean by disarming AI?

866.545 - 891.968 Natasha Tiku

That's why I think Anthropic benefited more from this, certainly. I mean, the three things that Ola emphasized were the potential for AI exacerbating global poverty, the power balance of inequality between nations, two things where they have a lot of agency, right, and a lot of money, power, and influence about how their technology is proliferated and used.

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892.688 - 906.095 Natasha Tiku

And yet he was able to present it like... you know, we are really concerned about this. And like, you know, the Catholic Church has always had like a lot of influence when it comes to global poverty. So we hope you're going to step in here.

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I keep being frustrated with this with AI companies. It's literally the, we're trying to find the guy who did all of this meme over and over and over again. Like, oh, AI is going to disrupt the economy and bankrupt us spiritually and everything's going to change. Oh, who could possibly be in charge of this? Who?

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Chapter 3: How is the Vatican's stance on AI impacting Silicon Valley?

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Who made this technology?

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926.628 - 926.949 Oz Veloshian

I don't know.

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926.969 - 927.951 Natasha Tiku

Actually, yeah.

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928.011 - 932.021 Oz Veloshian

Natasha, reading through the lines, are you saying the Pope got played?

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932.362 - 952.984 Natasha Tiku

No, no, I'm not. I'm just saying like that short term, it's beneficial to Anthropic to certainly be up on the dance with the Pope. I mean, look at how many downloads they got for a quad. They're still at the top of the app store. Look at how they were. They were like not even in the running as a popular consumer app.

953.125 - 965.082 Natasha Tiku

And the Pentagon stance got them to be like a top, you know, I mean, they're not going for the consumer play as much, but still like, of course, that's that you have the inframotor of the literal pope.

965.197 - 993.803 Oz Veloshian

the pope approved pope stamp of approval on your ai what's been the response by the non-anthropic companies in silicon valley i mean i know the pope is not a very popular figure with some i think peter teal has mused that he may be the antichrist and mark andreason has also trolled him on x um is he now being seen as just a pawn of anthropic by the wider ai industry or are people taking this seriously what's the what's the what's the hot take from from the valley

993.833 - 1015.194 Natasha Tiku

I think that people are taking it seriously. It's a very different mood right now. I mean, like compared to prior years in terms of the embrace of religion. There's so much religiosity just in the way that people talk about AI. But there's also been a resurgence and kind of an elevation of going to church, talking about religion.

1015.214 - 1021.1 Natasha Tiku

I would say it's more Christianity than, you know, I'm not seeing like the same elevation.

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