Natasha Tiku
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first heard Apr 2026
last heard 17 Jul
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So this is something of a narrative war between the U.S.
leading AI companies and the leading Chinese AI companies.
So what companies like Anthropic and OpenAI are alleging is that these Chinese companies are accessing their models, which are not supposed to be available in China and Hong Kong.
They're accessing their models in order to do this process called distillation, which basically involves kind of, you know, distilling, taking the learnings from a larger model and applying it to improve a smaller model.
And distillation is a process that has been used in the AI industry for a really long time.
It's standard process.
It's how state-of-the-art improvements are diffused throughout the system, you know, through academia and open source.
But OpenAI and Anthropic have started using this term adversarial distillation.
And they are, like, seeking government, U.S.
government protection from this process.
And they're alleging, you know, that a lot of the gains that we're seeing in Chinese distillation
models in open source AI in particular is coming at the expense of Anthropic.
Yeah, I was at this national security AI conference and the person from OpenAI brought it up.
And Irene Sleiman from Hugging Face raised her hand.
She was like, I've never, I've been in this industry for so long.
She was a super early OpenAI employee.
And she was like, I've never heard this term before.
But now it's kind of—it is diffusing throughout the U.S.
because, you know, they're extremely concerned that the Chinese open source models are cheaper, more accessible, and are being adopted very widely by U.S.
companies.
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