Are You Ready For A ‘Hot Surveillance Summer’? - Week in Tech
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Natasha Taylor, there was a fascinating story in Wired last week about an internal memo at Meta regarding a loose squirrel.
I did see this. Yeah, I didn't understand. We had a bird get into the New York Times office once and it did derail our afternoon.
So this was hard to pass, but there was a squirrel mailed to Meta in the Bangkok office.
The poor squirrel.
There was great hilarity because it's been a rough time for Meta, but people were commenting on how this was the most joyful moment the company had for a while, despite the fact that Janitor got scratched on his finger.
Well, I hope he got a rabies shot.
Welcome to Tech Stuff. I'm Oz Veloshian and this is The Week in Tech, where I'm joined by the world's most plugged in reporters to break down what's really happening in tech right now. Today, we're joined by Taylor Lorenz of UserMag and Natasha Tiku, tech reporter at The Washington Post. Welcome both.
Hey, everybody. Hello. Thanks for having us.
Well, it's good to see you. Natasha, you recently published an article titled Inside the Secret AI War Between Silicon Valley and China. Great headline. But it wasn't about ships or competing for talent, but actually about the models themselves. Can you explain what's going on here?
So this is something of a narrative war between the U.S. leading AI companies and the leading Chinese AI companies. So what companies like Anthropic and OpenAI are alleging is that these Chinese companies are accessing their models, which are not supposed to be available in China and Hong Kong. They're accessing their models in order to do this process called distillation, which basically involves kind of, you know, distilling, taking the learnings from a larger model and applying it to improve a smaller model. And distillation is a process that has been used in the AI industry for a really long time. It's standard process. It's how state-of-the-art improvements are diffused throughout the system, you know, through academia and open source.
But OpenAI and Anthropic have started using this term adversarial distillation. And they are, like, seeking government, U.S. government protection from this process. And they're alleging, you know, that a lot of the gains that we're seeing in Chinese distillation
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5 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–13:52
2
What’s the secret AI war between Silicon Valley and Chinese labs about?
13:52–20:06
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What does ‘adversarial distillation’ mean and why are US firms alarmed?
20:06–28:43
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Are Chinese open-source models really just copied from US models?
28:43–33:10
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How did Anthropic allegedly identify and surveil China-based users?
33:10–48:17
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