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Jay Stratton’s UFO Book Confirmed: Non-Human Intelligence, DOPSR & Disclosure Momentum
04 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: Who is Jay Stratton and what is his background in UFO investigations?
hi everyone and welcome back to that ufo podcast as always my name is andy and hopefully everyone can see and hear me as once again it is indeed a youtube live uh thank you to everyone checking this out live or watching back and folks as always i've been checking these things out
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to do so but thank you to everyone who does that and thank you to folks confirming yes indeed the sound is good and i am not just speaking to myself um the plan today actually was you were going to hear an interview with dean aliotto um whose new documentary is coming out today
which I'm going to be speaking about again at the end but there was indeed breaking news in the UFO topic and it's pretty big pretty big substantial breaking news as finally a book that was announced to be coming out back in September 2024 via deadline.com has finally been announced folks and indeed Jay Stratton former head of the UEP task force and in a little minute I'm going to give you more of his background
For many folks newer to the topic, perhaps you may know Jay Stratton as the guy who essentially was Lou Elizondo's boss, a lot of folks would say. He worked as part of OSAP, the UAP task force, and I'm going to read you out his list of roles across government. Fascinating, interesting stuff, but the book's confirmed, so I'm going to give you those now.
it's called out of the shadows revealing the truth about non-human intelligent life now this is Jay Stratton's memoir released via Harper Collins imprint William Morrow it's going to be available on October 13th of this year so what we're four months out from his book it's not too long to wait let me know in the comments if you're going to be ordering the book is available now today available on pre-order
Now I'm going to quote and cite a few different articles which have all ran big stories as this has dropped at the time. According to Deadline, Out of the Shadows is billed as a bombshell look at the deepest and most significant mystery in human history. And I love the fact that that rhymes as well. That's pretty cool.
I'm going to read you here what we've got so far, because while we've got the front cover of the book, which I'll get up for those actually on YouTube just now. And for those listening, it's pretty cool. Out of the Shadows got a massive triangular UFO hovering above the White House. I mean, for all we know, with the work happening at the White House right now, that's maybe what it looks like.
I'm not too sure. But anyway. I think it's the White House with the triangle above it. And you've got Jay Stratton silhouetted walking towards the White House. The graphics and font, it's a really cool book cover. You know, I am jealous on this one. It's decent. Kind of smoky. And it says, Jay Stratton, the most senior US official to investigate unidentified anomalous phenomena.
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Chapter 2: What are the significant details about Jay Stratton's memoir 'Out of the Shadows'?
While risking everything in pursuit of the truth, he created and led the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, UAPTF, the first whole-of-government investigation of UAP, forcing the nation to confront the unknown.
Now Stratton breaks his silence to provide a startling first-hand account of the shocking discoveries, encounters, challenges and behind-the-scenes revelations that profoundly altered his understanding of humanity's place in the universe and took a disturbing toll on him and his family.
a bombshell account and a definitive memoir that reads like a political thriller out of the shadows as a high stakes journey into the deepest and most significant mystery in human history again there's that rhyming which I do like
And here was Jay Stratton's announcement on X. He said, I'm excited to announce my memoir, Out of the Shadows, will be published by HarperCollins in North America on October 13th, 2026.
In the book, I break my silence to reveal everything I legally can about my investigations of UAP and non-human intelligent life on behalf of the US government and the profound impact my work had on me and my family. We are at a turning point in human history and I am proud to play a role in opening the public's eyes to the truth and bringing about long overdue disclosure.
Disclosure with a small d, but that may or may not be relevant there folks. So yeah, pretty interesting one. The pre-order is available now for $32 for the hardback, $14.99 for the e-book. If you need any practice ordering stuff like that, folks, you can check out my book, Atlas of UFOs. It's already out across the world. Just so you know that it's in there.
But yeah, Jay's book, I can only see information on the United States right now. I can't find it on Amazon UK, all that kind of stuff. I'm sure it will come up in the coming days or even hours. But yeah, check out that book. I'm sure many of you are going to pre-order it. Stick a note in the chat saying,
if you're if you're thinking of doing so um for those who are newer to the ufo space and given what's happened over the last couple of months and even weeks with file drops and all that kind of stuff um let me tell you a little bit about who Jay Stratton is and why this is a big deal and the Deadline article sums up his background really well so Stratton served the US for over 32 years both on the battlefield and as a senior member of the national intelligence community
actively contributing to the US president's daily briefing on national security, specializing in emerging air and space technologies.
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Chapter 3: How does the term 'non-human intelligent life' impact the UFO discourse?
It happens so often, doesn't it? But...
it's it's promising um also under jay's name it does say the most senior us official to investigate unidentified anomalous phenomena and i'll come back to that tagline in just a moment and so alongside this various articles have picked this up deadline confirmed that dan farah who is the director of last year's smash hit documentary age of disclosure it went to number one a
across the planet and whether you thought it was a little bit dry as I said I thought many folks said the same thing a lot of talking heads it had a big impact and it had a big impact on it seems a lot of the right people and Dan Farah has taken up the rights to turn this into a scripted series or movie I believe he had done the same thing with Lou Elizondo's book which he published through his organization too and it makes sense that he was working with Elizondo and Stratton for years on Age of Disclosure
so there's no surprise there in entertainment weekly dan farrah is quoted as saying this um so blah blah he secured the rights and plans to develop oh yeah so he plans to develop an elevated scripted series based on stratton's one-of-a-kind story which has attracted the excitement of a number of high-profile screenwriters and streaming platforms Again, that's something that sounds exciting.
I think we would all like to see these books brought to life, brought into those kind of TV and streaming formats. Elizondo's story, Secret Machines, Tom DeLonge's books, those were snapped up by Christopher Nolan's company, weren't they? But we still haven't seen that. Just because they're snapped up and they're signed to deals,
doesn't mean they ever see the light of day unfortunately and that's just the way these things can go and obviously it's a big story it's going to sell well Jay Stratton's book will be a New York Times number one bestseller I just fell short of that but Lou Elizondo's book sold in the thousands and I'm guessing
Elizondo's book must have sold close to 50,000 copies just ballpark figures at least 50,000 copies so yeah that hit the number one spot that gets eyes that gets attention Stratton's book I imagine will at least do the same look at the time we are living in right now in terms of this topic Entertainment Weekly had this quote from Dan Farah too
In Out of the Shadows Jay Stratton delivers the most revealing and definitive testimony ever written about the government's investigation and cover-up of UAP and non-human intelligent life Farrah tells EW in a statement after discovering the related national security concerns and a potential existential threat
Jay defied powerful institutional gatekeepers and risked everything in order to reveal that humanity is not alone in the universe and to ensure the government takes action out of the shadows has the propulsive storytelling of a high-stakes political thriller and exposes the biggest cover-up in human history and the deeply personal harrowing tale told
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Chapter 4: What role did DOPSR play in the publication of Stratton's book?
And yeah, they couldn't release it. So for me, the DOPSR thing, I'm going to come back to in just a moment as well. Because again, I think that's something that a lot of folks... Don't entirely know what DOPS is or why it's relevant. Blit said... Oh, wrong comment. Truth is up there. Agree about the X-Files comparisons. Yeah.
A few folks saying they've pre-ordered the Kindle version of the book, $14.99. Andresu says the book will be the most revealing one so far. I think there's a lot of hope behind this book as well. Elizondo's book moved the needle. I know folks may or may not have been...
totally sold on Elizondo's story I think that's the case for Stratton too and anyone at a high level involved in this conversation but I think we need stuff like this coming out
yeah so a couple of things i mentioned earlier standing out to me on this with the taglines so the most senior US official to investigate unidentified anomalous phenomena a few folks i saw online and in the discord in various places see it as perhaps a bit of shade or being thrown at Lou Elizondo there were rumors in the last couple of years and this is no big secret that perhaps there was not a happy relationship between Elizondo and Stratton
a lot of folks when they saw Age of Disclosure noticed that they were beside each other during filming for a couple of the scenes or one of the scenes at least in the documentary but Age of Disclosure was filmed over three years and released in 2025 early in the year so you're going back to 21 22 potentially when they started filming perhaps since then there has been a falling out a coming together I don't know what may or may not have happened
There were rumors online that Jay Stratton wasn't happy and members of his family around the positioning that Lou Elizondo had done regards his position. I don't know whether that's the case or not, but what I am keen to see in this book is what Jay Stratton says about OSAP.
about a tip and what was the the gray area in the middle of those organizations because that's something a lot of folks i think are very curious of um and and want to know more of those details being filled in there crunchy lobster i tend to think the book is going to get more attention regardless how revealing it is
because uaps are going to be much more widely discussed in the wake of disclosure day in part at least and yeah disclosure day is getting huge um huge plaudits and reviews from really early screenings from critics it's just premiered in paris i believe
tomorrow is the london premiere um i am not going to that there was rumors that i was going to the london premiere for with the casting no that is not happening i wish um but i would have turned up looking homeless the way i normally dress um but yeah so it's really interesting to see how how all that's addressed by jay stratton how deep he goes um so let me talk about dobser
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Chapter 5: How does Jay Stratton's work compare to other UAP programs like AATIP and OSAP?
um former officials are different from um so books from former officials are different from normal ufo books like mine like richard dolan's etc okay i'm not comparing mines and dolan's but you know officials and everything like that it says they can involve military sightings classified programs sensors intelligence channels national security issues so the question becomes what was the author allowed to say not just is the claim true
But how did this wording survive? And I think that can be key. I think a lot of this will have to be down to you watching or listening to this, how much stock you put in Jay Stratton as a person, as an author. And is what he's saying not only factually accurate, but why has it been allowed to be said? So the wording and how it survives review can be crucial to this too.
And that's what this community, if nothing else, is absolutely great at. pouring through this stuff with a fine tooth comb to go over every little nuance within it and this will be especially important when a book's using such strong language already on the cover around non-human intelligent life it's almost like we're taking this away from ufo we're taking this away from the craft
and perhaps this book will focus just as much if not more on the bodies the occupants the pilots the organics and i think that would be a welcome a welcome change of position and tact perhaps that's something that that can be talked more about we've often heard one of the the biggest things regarding this whole cover-up with this whole mystery
is to do with the propulsion of the craft and that's the real that's the big big secret around this so everything else falls under that umbrella but maybe stratton knows i can talk more about the bodies they are the organic materials recovered easier than i can propulsion craft methods all that kind of stuff maybe that's the way he's going um
so yeah i think for this just so you know folks dobser clearance does not prove the claims are true but it does mean the manuscript has been reviewed for protected information and the final wording was allowed to be published with ufo books from former officials that makes what they are permitted to say almost as interesting as the claims themselves
think that's that's a fair way to look at it if i sat here and told you that oh well this book's come out from stratton and it's been dopsa reviewed that's that's that's not fair the dopsa review i think is really important we we make sure that people know what that means um and kevin a few listener points on that okay kevin said what if this has gone if this has gone through dopsa how much of the actual information are we going to get
that's a difficult one to answer because you could falsify and fantasize a whole load of stories that aren't harming national security but at the end of the day they're going to make it into the final version of the book I don't think that will be the case but that could be the case
does mean some some things perhaps like propulsion and again this is off the top of my head i've not really thought about these answers folks propulsion of craft um means and methods of obtaining craft get left out because stratton put it in and it got removed or he knew for himself do you know what it's pointless even including this and that's where i'm wondering if the focus is on the non-human intelligence themselves perhaps types of species all that kind of stuff that's a far easier conversation because maybe that's not a shrouded
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the upcoming Capitol Hill events on UFO disclosure?
People are going to always judge this. There's always a book. I think especially, I never got too much shit for mine. Apologies for the French. But I think when you've got these officials coming forward, I think something that's always held David Grush in good stead with the UFO community is that he didn't write a book.
We were all waiting on the rumored op-ed that was going to come several years ago. He said it was coming out at a private event, but never did. Maybe for good reason. I personally would love a David Grush book, but it seems David Grush is too busy working in the background to do that. I'm excited for this book, but it's definitely going to...
What I want to say here, it's definitely going to be divisive. It's going to split opinion depending on what it says. It can cause ructions just within the whole UFO world itself. If perhaps Stratton comes out and claims Elizondo's role wasn't as big as he says it was or there's some shade thrown at other officials, maybe...
maybe he comes out and says certain events never happened maybe he deliberately avoids naming certain individuals we think he would and where does that leave their credibility does he amplify some and not others we won't know until the book comes out this is all i like to think healthy speculation but i think it's going to be another piece of the puzzle at least along the way um a few more comments from folks on there kyle says if there's one thing the ufo topic needs more of it's books
sarcasm Kyle it's the lowest form of wit but it is my favorite so yeah i like that Nosis over on the discord channel folks these aren't from youtube these are pre sent in stuff Nosis says unfortunately at this point it's only illegal to discuss stuff any of us are actually interested in these books might provide the odd breadcrumb but as we saw from Lou's book this is really about bringing the uninitiated up to speed and little else
perhaps and again maybe we'll see on the back of that i would like to hope that maybe with everything else happening in the coming months he knows he can push a little bit more maybe he's been allowed to say a little bit more along the way um little melly over on youtube said andy do you think he'll mention lou elizondo and his actual involvement in any legacy programs i don't know i don't know how much i think lou elizondo will be discussed um and there's derek on the live as well saying
pretty sure Lou was involved with legacy programs I honestly if I had to say yes or no I don't think he was and maybe he's not alluded to it but maybe he's allowed that to be built up as if that was something that was happening and I just don't think it was I personally don't think Lou Elizondo was involved in legacy programs and if that's been allowed to manifest then
Okay, I don't know if Lou's been asked that directly, if he's shot it down. He's either not shot it down because he was, or he's not shot it down to allow that mystery to build, perhaps. I don't know. But yeah, you know,
perhaps Elizondo has been telling the truth all along and has been straight with his mishaps aside with the dodgy photos we'll know soon enough, we'll know soon enough personally I'm as interested in the book what isn't being published or what isn't being said that'll potentially shed some light on stories positive and negative We'll see who gets called out, who doesn't get called out.
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Chapter 7: How does the current wave of UFO media attention affect public perception?
Really interested to know what people think on that and stick a comment in the chat.
um regardless it's great timing and great publicity because if i had a UFO book coming out i would be releasing it right about now for pre-order because we are standing on the cusp of a huge week for the subject next week finally we've got disclosure day coming out in cinemas and which is gaining big traction in the media but we also have that event coming up on capitol hill on the 9th of june um which is getting big mainstream media attention let me just play the clip
for you just now from News Nation. It's very short.
This time next week, UFO whistleblower David Grush will be joined by a bipartisan group of lawmakers on the steps of the US Capitol for what could be a pivotal step in the push for transparency around UFOs. Grush plans to discuss specific UFO evidence that he encountered during his time as an intelligence officer and why these records should be publicly released now.
I like that she slipped up and said USO totally oblivious to what she said there instead of UFO when you know USO is all the rage and hopefully I'd like to speak to Richard Dolan on his second volume of USO books coming out so yeah interesting I like the comment there from Crunchy Lobster Grushmeter++ yes we should have a Grushmeter online or a GrushX account shouldn't we
i look back at the original press release from this event coming out um it was confirmed um on the 28th of may and it says within the press release uap whistleblower david grush a highly credentialed former intelligence officer who has testified under oath before congress will discuss specific UAP and non-human intelligence related evidence he encountered in deeply classified channels.
Grush will explain why these records should now be reviewed and publicly released consistent with legitimate national security protections. I think this is what Grush was getting at a few weeks ago when he was in the news.
oh and hi to Mr Justin good shout on that one mate when on the news he said he didn't find the videos that were coming out particularly engaging or interesting especially for the public and it's not what he was working on in terms of moving this forward within 60 to 90 days and I think he's talking about records that he has seen. I don't even know if they include video or photographic evidence.
Perhaps they do, perhaps they don't. But I think, and this is something Pavel from Seco Activo had talked about as well, I think Rush has seen other things that he thinks are a better way to go with this than trying to release a whole load of videos that are just noisy and clutter and nonsense that can easily be debunked
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Chapter 8: What are the expectations surrounding the release of Stratton's book and its impact on UFO discussions?
there's a video that's gone viral from brazil and a brazilian rancher um mike leal and i'm saying mike it's m-a-y-k i hope i'm saying that properly he's gone viral for filming strange sounds and lights now he is an influencer now i'm hoping i fact checked myself correctly here okay now the guy right now has 1.5 million followers on instagram it's hard to go back and check but it looks like before may 31st when he posted the video i'm going to show you he had around 50 000
No small feat. 50,000 is a good number of people. He does a lot of live streams. He's a rancher, an influencer. Loves kicking about with his top off and doing all the kind of ranch stuff he would do in Brazil. So he's got a pretty cool audience, it seems here. Speaks in his native language on his streams, from what I can see. His numbers, needless to say, have grown since this video has come out.
And that may raise eyebrows that an influencer has managed to grow so
their their channel in a big way off the back of a time when the ufo topic is incredibly incredibly hot um so yeah um make of that what you will but i do want to play this clip because it is relevant and a lot of folks were asking me about it online folks and the first part of the clip he's speaking in his native language it's very short but he he talks about the sounds of
entities or something that's it's coming onto his ranch spooking the animals making noises during the day at various different times so just listen to the to the noises being made here okay so he does like a kind of clicking and a lot of folks are comparing it to the disclosure day um sounds you know when emily blunt's standing up on stage and there's the clicks and hisses they're kind of
don't know how that comes across on the audio folks done my best on that one I'm better with accents and that kind of stuff but a lot of folks talking about that again is he using the marketing and going viral because if he's doing that fair play man it's worked because he has went from 50,000 subs on Instagram to 1.5 million based on this everyone would love that kind of traction wouldn't they
and then there's the video that i'm going to play now in the background so again this goes out on audio folks i'm just going to play it in the background and talk about it there's not too much more to go on right now but he's showing in the hill in the distance lights he talks about them in various videos that they're being above a lake potentially it does look like some kind of object or lights are shimmering in the hill as he's filming what's really frustrating in the full like five and a half minute video
He's using the front facing camera on his phone and he does film himself quite a lot, which frustrates people. He does say he's scared and he's not sure what to do. He keeps filming it and keeps putting it back on himself and back on these lights on the hill. It's not the incredibly clear video because this thing is in the distance.
And you know what it's like when you're trying to film something kind of far away, regardless how good your phone is. But this guy...
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