Chat Was Us | Success
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is a HeadGum Podcast.
Oh, come on. Are you serious?
Baby. Look at those eyebrows.
It's adorable. You're adorable. What are you talking about? Look at Arlene. What up, Arlene?
Hi, Arlene.
Oh, mom. That's high school right there.
What was that award?
It's called the Headmaster's Cup for the student that most exemplifies the spirit of the institution.
Of course.
There you go.
Not surprising. You are Randall.
End of chat about success.
Yep.
Welcome back to another installment of Chat With Us. Yeah. Where we take a break from our rewatch podcast and we dive into a topic inspired by the themes of our show, This Is Us. And today's topic is a big one. You ready?
What is it?
Success.
Okay. Success.
Oh, here we go.
We're talking about ambition. Tell them about it. Achievement. Yes, sir. Fulfillment, chasing dreams, changing dreams, and that feeling that we all have when we just get to the next thing, then we'll finally feel successful.
Or will we? Or will we? This is us, explore this constantly. Kevin had fame, but searched for purpose. Randall checked every box, but was still anxious. Kate spent years redefining what success meant for her. So today we're asking, What actually makes a successful life? But first, let's do a little catch up.
How you guys doing?
Let's do a little catch up. I can talk about a little personal success. Amari Brown won his basketball championship. Final score was 31 to 30. We were winning at halftime by four points. The other team came back and got up by six points. We climbed back to a tie. Amari Brown got fouled on a layup. It was an and one hit his free throw, right? The best part of this whole game is that the coach of the other team, who I don't know, but we had to play him once in the regular season and once during the playoffs. He's a very loud and passionate man, and he sort of chafed Brown in a way that Brown is not accustomed to being chafed.
How do the hosts introduce the topic of success and ambition?
If you ever want to see something funny, watch Brown coach in the playoff game. Cause it is, it is. Oh, you were coaching. Oh yeah. So you're on like a 12. Bro, we turn it up to 11.
Okay.
All the way up, right? Then watch Ryan Michelle Bathay in the stands. You guys, my wife will go after any parent that she thinks is sort of like attacking her child. If the kid, if the parent's like, that's a foul. She's like, it was not a foul. Like Ryan? is hysterical. I've had to keep Ryan from at least three fights that I can think of, once in Little League Super Bowl games in flag football, and once yesterday, or when she had the playoff game, the championship. You gotta invite me to these things. Yeah, this is his bread and butter. I will absolutely invite you, because from coaching, I'm talking to the kids, and I hear my wife, and I turn around and I say, hey. It's OK. And she'll be like, ah! It is absolutely hysterical.
But the game is over. We win 31 to 30. Andrew Brown, who acts like he's too cool for school for everything, runs out onto the court and grabs 10-year-old boys.
He's like, let's go!
Let's fucking go! He gets so hyped. There's one of the few times that I see him and his brother jump and embrace and hug each other and everything. Like that was, as far as success is concerned, because the winning is one thing. What you feel more than anything else is relief because the sadness. Is too much.
Oh gosh.
Do you guys remember, you guys may not be old enough, but ABC used to do something called the Wide World of Sports. I remember that. And they would talk about, and Howard would say, the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat. Agony of defeat. I think the agony of defeat probably hits harder than actually the thrill of victory. So I feel like, okay. We made it through that one because when the 10 year old, like even as I'm shaking the hands of the other kids, And the tears are streaming down their eyes. I'm like, hey, fella, you played a great game. You played a great game. Even the coach.
Not better than us, but pretty good.
I even dapped up the coach and I said, good coach. He tried to slow the game down. So we have offensive players who are pretty good.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–2:33
2
How do the hosts introduce the topic of success and ambition?
2:33–12:38
3
Why does victory feel fleeting compared to failure according to the hosts?
12:38–14:45
4
How did childhood sports, competition, and summers shape their drive and ambition?
14:45–15:39
5
How does encouragement quiet the inner critic and change negative self-talk?
15:39–1:15:30
6
What role did fame play in Mandy’s early life and how did it affect her sense of success?
1:15:30–1:21:58