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That Was Us

Josh Einsohn and Us | Casting Director

31 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: How did Josh Einsohn get started in casting?

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This is a HeadGum Podcast.

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11.2 - 27.203 Sterling K. Brown

Who are we interviewing today?

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27.419 - 28.22 Mandy Moore

Josh Einsten.

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28.741 - 30.283 Sterling K. Brown

Who is Josh Einsten, Mandy Moore?

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30.323 - 34.848 Mandy Moore

Josh Einsten is, was our casting director.

34.928 - 35.429 Sterling K. Brown

That's correct.

35.549 - 36.571 Mandy Moore

On This Is Us. Yeah.

36.831 - 38.693 Sterling K. Brown

The only episode he didn't do was the pilot.

38.713 - 43.299 Mandy Moore

Was the pilot. So he did not in fact cast us. He worked with Tiffany Canfield. Yeah, Tiffany cast us.

Chapter 2: What role did Tommy Lee Jones play in Josh's career?

47.264 - 59.236 Mandy Moore

Although he does not take full credit. He says it is a team, a collective, which I'm sure I understand. But, you know, he's sort of the one that brings in options.

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59.516 - 83.936 Mandy Moore

Casting directors, it is their job to ruminate, think back on their experience of people they brought in for other projects and knowing about other actors that are out there in the ether and kind of bringing them, the right people, to the right parts. So that's what Josh's job was. So... Some of our favorites on the show, be it Lyric, Jan Morrison, who played Cassidy, Griffin Dunn.

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84.076 - 84.497 Chris Sullivan

Both Nickies.

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84.517 - 89.772 Mandy Moore

Both Nickies, Michael Angarano, all of the children. Yeah. You know, all of the various ages.

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89.792 - 90.855 Sterling K. Brown

I wish you'd asked them about Alex.

90.835 - 92.237 Mandy Moore

Alex Breckenridge.

92.377 - 93.558 Sterling K. Brown

Yeah, that's right. Anyway, that's all right.

Chapter 3: What challenges does Josh face when casting multiple ages of characters?

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I'll get it.

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93.859 - 114.583 Mandy Moore

We'll get it next time. I know, there was so much. We'll get it next time. We had a very long in-depth conversation with him just about his experience in the casting world. He said he's been doing this for over 25 years. 25 years. And just like where he was in his life when he was brought on board This Is Us, how This Is Us ended up impacting his own life personally.

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114.603 - 114.903 Sterling K. Brown

That's right.

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115.083 - 116.505 Mandy Moore

And some of the choices that he made.

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116.485 - 132.842 Sterling K. Brown

And then just questions about what it's like to be a casting director. Because I feel like we have a lot of artists that probably watch the show and are always wondering, what are they looking for? What are the things that make a good audition pop, et cetera? Because I know that's something very much in my head. It turns out nobody knows.

Chapter 4: How did COVID change the audition process?

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No one knows. There's no special sauce. There's no secret ingredient.

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137.467 - 144.36 Chris Sullivan

So please enjoy this interview with Josh Einsohn. 25 years in casting?

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144.981 - 145.242 Josh Einsohn

Yeah.

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Congrats.

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146.183 - 149.128 Josh Einsohn

Thank you. Yeah, it snuck up on me.

149.148 - 151.431 Sterling K. Brown

That's nothing. Mandy Moore's been doing it. How many years have you been?

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About the same time.

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No. 30 something.

Chapter 5: What was the urgent recasting of the teen Big Three about?

154.456 - 158.221 Mandy Moore

Casting? Casting for 25 years. Can you believe it? Amazing. I don't have any credits.

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158.241 - 159.383 Sterling K. Brown

Obviously, we started when we were two.

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159.563 - 159.944 Mandy Moore

Yeah.

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159.964 - 162.368 Sterling K. Brown

In front of the camera for the first time at age what?

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163.049 - 168.703 Mandy Moore

Like... For real, for real, like 15. 15. Yeah, 27 years.

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Almost there.

169.584 - 170.585 Mandy Moore

Yeah, yeah, getting there.

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You're getting there.

Chapter 6: How does Josh determine the right fit for roles in 'This Is Us'?

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First camera job? 2006. Well, yeah, 2006 was the first movie I did.

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177.615 - 185.625 Sterling K. Brown

20 years? Yeah, 25 for me because it was 2001. Because you came in on the West Wing when I was there. That's right.

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185.605 - 186.626 Mandy Moore

You were on the West Wing?

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186.867 - 187.548 Sterling K. Brown

No, no, no.

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187.588 - 188.75 Mandy Moore

Oh, you auditioned for it.

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He shouldn't have been on the West Wing. I did a special episode of the West Wing. Right, the live. But I did audition.

195.84 - 196.461 Mandy Moore

Oh, the live, live, live.

Chapter 7: What advice does Josh have for actors navigating the industry?

196.481 - 204.292 Josh Einsohn

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back when it was on the air. He auditioned while it was, I was like a baby casting associate, but I remember. Do you really? Look at you. Very clearly. Yeah.

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205.594 - 206.736 Chris Sullivan

Save it, save it, save it.

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206.937 - 208.92 Mandy Moore

I feel like we're already recording. We've been rolling.

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We're rolling. We've been rolling.

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211.624 - 215.891 Mandy Moore

Listen, I want, no, go ahead. I have so much to say.

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You said you remember him auditioning for, but I feel like that is like an unspoken huge part of casting.

Chapter 8: How did 'This Is Us' influence Josh's personal life decisions?

227.405 - 248.67 Josh Einsohn

is it's remembering yeah and then when it comes back around i mean there are also projects i work on that are particularly vivid including this is us sure where like stuff really just sticks in my head and when i was on the west wing like a baby in the industry and casting at that point everybody who came in was like magic to me and being in those rooms was magic sure so like

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248.65 - 254.016 Josh Einsohn

I'm sure I've forgotten a lot at this point, but there was a lot I remember about doing that.

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254.036 - 283.219 Mandy Moore

Can we roll the tape back a little bit? And welcome our guests. Yes. Everybody who has something to say about this show usually comments on the music and the casting. When they talk about the special sauce of what This Is Us was, And so much of that is thanks to our guest today, who we've been trying to get on forever, Josh Einsten. Thank you so much, casting director.

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283.239 - 284.241 Josh Einsohn

In the flesh. Thank you.

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284.261 - 285.023 Mandy Moore

In the flesh.

285.424 - 288.951 Josh Einsohn

Very strange for me to be in front of a camera. Very strange.

288.931 - 293.017 Mandy Moore

Yeah, you usually are behind the camera trying to find the people that are in front of you.

293.037 - 309.319 Chris Sullivan

I like to cast someone to play me. Yeah. Today you're being played by Jim Carrey. There are no three people who are more impressed with the casting of the show than the three of us. We're very grateful for the casting of the show. And your involvement in...

309.299 - 334.738 Mandy Moore

And we always talk about just how incredible, like we can go into specific examples, but like when people talk about casting for like young, like all of the young versions of these characters, It is what every single time, in fact, this is a very specific example. We were just, you know, we're deep into season five now.

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