Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is a HeadGum Podcast. On today's episode of That Was Us, we're diving into season five, episode seven, There.
Chapter 2: What are the generational pressures faced by the Pearsons in this episode?
The Pearsons confront the pressures passed down through generations as we revisit Jack's childhood with his father, watch Kevin grapple with what it means to be a good dad in the middle of a crisis, and see Madison face the terrifying possibility of bringing the twins into the world alone. Mandy Moore, Christopher Sullivan. How the hell are you? Sterling Kelby Brown. We are lovely.
Sterling Kelby Brown. It's so good to see you guys. Great to see you too. You guys had a gray memo. We did. We got the gray memo. And you too. We did too. Is this gray? Is this gray? It's like green, gray sort of thing going on. Pants are green. Tops are gray. Pants are blue. You see green? Aqua.
Chapter 3: How does Kevin Pearson define being a 'good' dad during a crisis?
I see blue. Blue, green. Yeah. That's aqua, right? Blue, green? Yeah. Something like that. What's with your orange shirt? That's not orange. I'm like, okay, now we have an issue. I guess if you want to know what we're talking about, you better go on Spotify and check out the video. There you go. First of all, it's good to see you guys. You too. It's been a minute since we've recorded.
And then, so I'm going to let the cat out of the bag. I don't know if we're going to say anything about it now, but like this is the first time we've recorded since we actually recorded the live.
Chapter 4: What challenges does Madison face while preparing for childbirth?
We did a live show.
Yes, we did.
And so we haven't been able to talk about it. How come they haven't talked about the live show? I can hear our audience saying that. It's because actually we just got finished doing it. Yeah. What a joy you got. That was so joyful. It was frigging outstanding to be up on stage with you guys, to hear Dawes just jam, like to groove, man, to see you do your thing, Mandy Moore, Chris Sullivan.
I think a lot of people didn't know. I think they didn't know. I mean, when you came out. Come on, man. It was all the clips going around on socials. We got clips. Brown's good for a clip, but for a performance. That's not true. You're good for the whole night. The whole night from beginning to end could not have gone smoother. It was wonderful.
And can I say like an extra special gigantic thank you to everybody who traveled? So we did like a meet and greet with about a hundred people afterwards. So many people were like, this is my date night with my husband from Chicago, from Toronto. Florida. I mean, everywhere. They flew in. We were so floored by that.
It's interesting because it takes a certain amount of time to be able to give people their time. But what I found was like, They had so much to pour into us.
It was able to.
More than us doing. You know what I'm saying? It was such a reciprocal thing.
It was easy to pour it back out. I can keep doing this. Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What personal birth stories do the hosts share?
We got, somebody brought us a Jay Candelaria. Baseball card. Trading card, hold that one up. I mean, I feel like that should go in a prop situation. We got a storm trooper. This is so cool, man. Oh, and somebody made us the missing piece of the puzzle. Jack's eye. Are you serious? Yeah. And then we got a whole box full of letters. Do you want to read one or just save it for another time?
Let's see, let's see. Here's one that's addressed to That Was Us team. Okay.
Chapter 6: How do the hosts reflect on their experiences of the live show?
Why don't you crack that open? We'll crack this open. We saved, I'm so happy. And then I'll give you guys all of your individual letters. Okay. I mean, some of the things that people said. I remember this sweet. Yeah. So thoughtful, so warm. Thank you. That was us team. I think this means you team. This is the whole team.
Thank you so, so, so much for your hard work and the thoughtfulness you put into this podcast. During hard times, it's nice to have an hour of joy that I look forward to every week. You all are doing a great job. Keep up the great work. I hope you all pull up to Austin for South by Southwest or ATX TV Fest. Much love, Amaya. I remember Amaya. She gave us all these cards. Oh, my goodness.
This one is too long to read, but maybe what we'll do is we can save these for some fan segments, and we can read some of them on the fan segments. This is so... We got individual notes. We've got... Somebody made this little box, this little book box. I'll give you this little thank you note. Oh, wow. Of course, Jack's on it with the dog. Yeah, Jack is on it. So it was a wonderful night.
It was a great night. Full of Merriment Marathon music. Yeah, man. Hopefully, if it does well, when you guys watch it and everything, we'll have feedback by then and maybe we'll decide to do it again. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think we should do one in Pittsburgh, right? We should do one in Nashville. We should go to Nashville. We'll take it on the road. Take it on the road. We'll go to Chrissy.
We'll see Chrissy in Nashville. Cool. We'll just take it to everybody.
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Chapter 7: What emotional moments are highlighted in Kevin's timeline?
Okay. We're on 507. You guys have any just like overarching thoughts before we get into the nitty gritty about how this episode hit you? Did you remember it? Was it foggy? No. Was it clear? Did not remember it. Did you? Didn't remember at all. Nope. I mean, I remembered some of it, but... Here's what I remember on a personal note is I was very close to giving birth.
I was like this 508 and 509 was my last episode that I filmed before I gave birth to Gus. So I still wasn't a parent yet. So I just was watching and I actually had to text Kate Fogelman because I was so moved by her performance. I thought she was exceptional. Her and Justin together are so...
quiet and effortless and the fear of giving birth and potentially doing it by yourself and not having someone there not having any sort of touchstones you know we'll talk about it more in this episode obviously justin is away when she goes into labor and he's trying to get back to her but it just really brought me back to that time very much personally speaking of
on the precipice of this, like, gigantic life change and all that, just that wave of emotions that's hitting you of, like, the loss of identity and how scary it is and just everything kind of culminating at once. And I just was so moved by her performance in particular. It was so... Agreed. Shout out to Kate. Visceral.
And I don't know where things were medically when you were about to give birth, but, like, I'm... I was like three weeks out of not being allowed into the hospital. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So at this time, because the pandemic was still going on, I was a brand new dad when these episodes were out.
But when Rachel gave birth, there was a distinct possibility that she was also going to be doing it alone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For different reasons. Yeah, yeah. All of that. I mean, I just like, I don't know if watching this season in particular and the masks and the storyline involving the pandemic sort of like all of it just like really brings you back. It's a fascinating time capsule. Yeah.
I forgot how much mask... There was. Sure. Yeah. Many much masks. Many much masks were marauding. But that was our life. That was what we lived with day in and day out, no matter where you went. It just, yeah, it is a strange time capsule to be like, wow. It feels so long ago. So long ago. And yet also like this forgotten time as well.
Like you just sort of, it's like, I remember 2019 and like 2023, you know, like. There was like a couple years in there where you're just like, what happened? And then two years of cooking dinner.
Listen, I think it's such a, like the idea that we almost, I don't think we're ever not going to address the pandemic, but if we hadn't, it would have been a lost opportunity because now going back and watching it, it is a reminder of like, that's what life was like for folks. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so let's dig into it.
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Chapter 8: How does Jack's childhood influence his parenting style?
Man, don't you be doing that to these people. Yeah. I was like, he's. We left the last episode with him being like, I can make it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yet yo. And so now we're seeing what happened after that. What a head fake. Do you want to just go through Kevin's timeline there? Sure. Because what winds up happening is we go back in time from that car crash, what have you.
So now we know, okay, Kevin was in an accident. Yeah, where is he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's going on? Kev's on set. He's talking to his sister, and she's about to go down to San Diego because that's where they're giving birth to their baby. What's your birth mother's name? Ellie's giving birth to their baby. Right, so she's got to head down, and Kev sent her a gift. She's all very cutesy.
Talks to Madison, who wound up having to go... In this conversation, she's like, I got to go to the hospital. I think I'm having contractions. And she said, I had Braxton Hicks before. This is not that. This feels different. And he's like, yo, what's going on? Like, this isn't supposed to be happening for another couple of weeks. He's about to go film a scene with Robert De Niro. With De Niro.
You know what I'm saying? And this one, we're going to have to take a break. Because this is one of those things where you suspend disbelief.
You got to have a take.
Yeah, yeah. Sterling's got a hot take. I think we all probably have the same hot take, if you bear with me here. But so she says she's got to go to the hospital, right? He's concerned that she's alone. You can see he's sort of guilt-ridden and just not happy. Like, he wants to be with his fiancee, who's about to give birth to his children. So De Niro's taking time.
Every once in a while we have actors who take a little bit longer to come out than others. You wanna name names? Evidently Robert De Niro from our show is one of those people.
for anyone uh uh listening yeah apparently his brain is a big slope apparently apparently um he takes a lot of time in here makeup and so and so we're like like my pulse is sort of quickening it's like the sooner we get out of here the sooner he can make it back you know what i'm saying turns out dinero didn't take too long right takes a couple minutes he's headed in but like by that time kev has already gotten the information from madison that she's there alone and he's talking to the director he's like hey man my wife uh has just gone into my fiance it's gone in the labor he's like oh
That's great, man. Congratulations. Congratulations. We'll try to get you out of here as soon as possible. What? No, I mean, I was just hearing that. I'm like, that is not the right response. I mean, I know you're the director and this is your movie, but I don't know. I think they're in two different pages because I think for the director, the movie is his baby. Yes. Right. Understandably, yes.
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