The Pearson Family Wagoneer | "The Car" (S2E15) with Elizabeth Berger and Isaac Aptaker

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What is the main topic of this episode?

Isaac Aptaker 0:10
On today's episode of That Was Us, we'll be discussing season two, episode 15, The Car. On the day of Jack's funeral, we see the history of the Pearson family as seen through their family car, the Wagoneer. Plus, Rebecca finds solace with an old friend who reminds her how strong she is in the toughest of circumstances. Mandy Moore, Chris Sullivan.
Sterling K. Brown 0:35
We're back.
Isaac Aptaker 0:36
Sterling K. Brown. It is so good to see you guys.
Sterling K. Brown 0:39
It's good. You guys are a sight for sore eyes, as they say.
Isaac Aptaker 0:42
So let's go with full disclosure here. We're going slightly out of order for our listeners, but they'll hear this after the fact, right? Because we're doing episode 215. We're skipping over 214 because we wanted to find some time for Dan Fogelman to come and join us because we think it's a very special episode, right? Correct. But life has been lifing for everyone. It's been a couple of months since last we've been together in the same space.
Mandy Moore 1:04
Yeah, I think we were last together, was it December? Was it December? November? Wow.
Sterling K. Brown 1:07
November. Is that true? It was November?
Elizabeth Berger 1:11
End of November.
Sterling K. Brown 1:11
Holy cow. And this is March.
Elizabeth Berger 1:15
March.
Isaac Aptaker 1:15
March. Golly. March. March. Jiminy Christmas. I know.
Sterling K. Brown 1:20
Jiminy Christmas.
Isaac Aptaker 1:21
Heaven to Murgatroyd. Heaven to Murgatroyd. Heaven to Murgatroyd. So life's been life. Because I was hoping we were going to do 2.14 first, but life has happened in the way that it is. I want to check in with everybody. Chris, you've been out shooting in Toronto, new show. How you feeling? How's it been going?
Elizabeth Berger 1:38
Everything is good. Life, whenever a project ends, I have a little bit of relief. And then there's about 48 hours before I text my entire team and go, so what, so...
Mandy Moore 1:50
So am I ever going to work again?

What are the significant moments in the Pearson family's history?

Elizabeth Berger 1:52
So what are we doing now? So what are we doing now? I don't know. The last few days, my brain has been all over the place and I'm feeling very ungrounded. Really? Yeah, yeah. I'm flighty and forgetting things and trying to resettle in myself. Trying to find a new equilibrium. I keep injuring myself. which is always a bad sign.
Chris Sullivan 2:11
Like tripping or like dropping things.
Elizabeth Berger 2:12
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like dislocating a knee and pulling. Oh, wow. No, like injury. Are you okay? I'm all right. He's okay. Everything's fine. Okay, okay. But things, yeah, things feel... unsettled. So, yeah. It's in the air. I've been very excited to see you guys. Yeah, me too.
Sterling K. Brown 2:31
Because this is actually very grounding for me. And can I say on our break, I have listened to episodes of this pod and it's like been a balm for me to hear your voices, to think about the show, how much I love you guys. I was like, wow, this is a, listening to like the Isaac and Elizabeth episode, I was like, this is good. Yeah. I'm interested.
Mandy Moore 2:53
I had the conversation, but it was still revelatory for me here. Like, oh, I don't remember any of this.
Isaac Aptaker 2:58
Listen, just putting it out there, we know that you've gone through so much, Amanda Lee Moore, like so frigging much. And I just want to know, you and your family,
Sterling K. Brown 3:10
We're okay. Yeah. You're okay. I'm like, I'm not going to get emotional at this point. We're okay. Yes, we're okay. We're happy. We're healthy. We're safe. We're together. Yes. And it's, yeah, we're putting one foot in front of the other. I have, my in-laws are living with us, which sounds like it could be a tricky situation, but we have... I've loved having like that energy there. My father-in-law is unfortunately not in good health. So it's been lovely to have that time with him and for him to be around the kids and they lost their home. And so it's like to be able to heal together has been really special. And so, yeah, so we're all in like a cool little rental and it's an adventure and my boys are in a new school cause their school is gone.
Sterling K. Brown 3:53
Like it's been a lot of change, but we're okay. We're okay.
Isaac Aptaker 3:57
Is it one of those things for the fellas, because they're young, what's the resiliency like for youth versus adults?
Sterling K. Brown 4:04
I think that's the key has been about like providing that safety and that structure. So what they come away from this experience with is resilience. It's like, wow, maybe my four-year-old will maybe remember this time, but hopefully it's just punctuated with like, oh, that time that we lived in a new house for a while with Papa and Gaga. But we came out of it stronger and we were together.

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