Time Capsule | "The Cabin" (414) with Director Catherine Hardwicke
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What is the episode premise and who’s joining this discussion?
On today's episode of That Was Us, we're diving into season four, episode 14, The Cabin. As the big three reunite at the family cabin, old wounds reopen, including flashbacks to Kate's toxic relationship with Mark, and a rediscovered time capsule gives them a long-lost piece of Jack. Hello, friends. Hello. How are you both?
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Wonderful acoustics.
I'm great. How are you guys?
You look great. Dress is dressing.
Yeah.
Hair is hair and makeup.
Thank you.
I mean, you look, like, sophisticated. Thank you. Like a grown-ass woman. Thank you. Like, not that you aren't, because that's exactly what you are.
For once.
How is, you've been working on the new Fogelman show.
It's great.
For the past month or so.
Yeah, yeah. Good? It's been going great.
It's a great time.
So much fun. Yes.
Is it like, is the part like Rebecca?
Not quite.
Not at all.
She is a tough cookie, this one. Not that Rebecca wasn't a tough cookie. Yeah, she's competitive and driven and doesn't really take any prisoners. She's gunning for one thing in life and doesn't care what gets in her way.
This feels very Aries-centric.
Very Aries-centric.
Do you feel in line with this?
No, that's what's fun about it. You know what I mean? It's just doing something wholly different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's fun. But see, I'm saying this because there's a hidden side to Mandy Moore that people don't frequently get to see.
Well, if you push me.
Oh, man, I've had the flashes of seeing it. They're delightful, aren't they?
They're exhilarating.
They are delightful. You're like, there she is.
Well, you know, you've got to advocate for yourself.
It's like when Chrissy's Florida comes out.
Oh, I love when Chrissy's Florida comes out. Exhilarating. It's delightful. So then do you get to curse in this one?
There have been some scenes where I'm like, this is too many Fs. Like, it's just a lot of Fs. F, F, F, F, F, F, F. F this, F that. I was like, is this going to be too much?
Do you smoke?
No, no, no.
No smoking. But you can curse. Lots of cursing. You banging anybody?
Maybe. Oh!
Exhilarating! Let go, let go, let go! We shall see. What's up with you, big dog? How's life been since last we've seen each other?
Life is life. I'm firmly planted in the middle of my life. At age 45, the house is, we both are, the house is full of young toddlers and perimenopause and creaky knees. Yeah. And yeah, life's life. I'll tell you what's going on with Brown.
I was able to take off the boot. The boot is gone. The boot is gone. I can like rotate and circle. It's still taped up, though. Yeah, it's still taped up. And when I walk, I walk like a big boy. Like I take small steps, right? And I'm like, look at you, big boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It feels good. I'm very excited. So thank you all for that. Now, we've updated. Everybody seems to be in a good place. Let's talk about we're getting towards the end of the season. There's usually like a nice little build as we get to the end of the season.
Yeah, almost two thirds of the way done with the show. Crazy, right?
It's crazy. When did we start this?
Last year.
We're flying through this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just last year. We are flying through this. Just last year.
Jiminy Christmas. That's right. Heavens to Murgatroyd, everyone. Okay, so I was today years old when I found out that Mark, Kate's ex-boyfriend, spells his first name with a C. Yeah. And that should have been our first red flag. If you don't spell your name with a K and your name is Mark, you're probably not the coolest person. And he was not the coolest person. It was interesting to see this episode because I realized over these last few episodes, talking about him raises my pressure. Yeah, yeah. Is he the least cool person in all of This Is Us?
Yeah.
I think he is.
Oh, without a doubt.
Does anybody even compare? Far and away? I would probably say yes.
Probably.
Like he gets, I get agitated.
Like this is, when you come to, now that we mentioned it, it's kind of odd that the writers have offered him not a one redeeming quality.
Yeah.
Like most people. I think purposefully.
I think so too. Sure, sure. Like in terms of representing a point in time in her life where she was willing to attach herself to just someone that gave her attention.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the episode premise and who’s joining this discussion?
0:00–12:08
2
How does Kate’s toxic relationship with Mark play out at the cabin?
12:08–12:26
3
What does Jack’s time capsule reveal about his dream for the cabin?
12:26–42:45
4
What happens when the family discovers Randall's secret and why does he panic?
42:45–47:12
5
How does the time capsule reveal Jack’s message and why is the tape so emotional?
47:12–52:09
6
What visual details connect Jack’s sketch to the future family house?
52:09–56:03
7
How did director Catherine Hardwicke get involved and what behind‑the‑scenes stories does she share?
56:03–1:27:27