#23 - Government Uses Religion to Control People” 2 Former Christians Clash Over History, Power, and Faith

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Previously titled “#23- Government Uses Religion to Control People” 2 Former Christians Clash Over History, Power, and Faith” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 7, 2026

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In this episode of That’s My Time Podcast, Tolu Afilaka hosts a deep, no-holds-barred conversation with guests from different belief systems. The discussion moves from Chioma’s experiences of spiritual sensitivity and her connection to water, to portals, altars, and why blood magic is rejected. The table debates whether Jesus is the only way, the role of religion in power and control, and how people hide traditional practices while still attending church. From there it goes into God’s nature, Noah’s flood, “we are gods,” reincarnation, Ogbanje, Akashic records, and dreams that leave marks. A tense section follows on T.B. Joshua and SCOAN, deliverance, fear, and prayer water. The final stretch challenges listeners with words as spells, psalms as spell words, money and protection psalms, return to sender, hellfire, and the idea that love is the real solution.Timestamps (chapters)00:00 Chioma’s “market vision” + filtering energies 03:00 Water as her strongest element + connection to the unseen 06:00 Birth story: nurse + “ball of water” 09:30 Fran on ether, elements, and African spiritual memory 12:30 Joshua’s Christian view + “Merlin” exposure 14:40 Prayer and healing testimony15:00 Tolu on grandpa’s Christianity + spirituality 17:40 Can spiritual power be used for good 20:30 Omnism, discipline, altar routine 24:00 Blood magic rejected + low vibration entities 25:40 Portals: you can’t open and leave it 27:10 Sage, bay leaf, cinnamon + Celestial Church reference 29:05 Objects have spirit vs life is in the blood 30:00 Christianity, war, and religion history claim 31:30 Government uses religion to control people 35:10 World power question36:30 Outbreak, sacrifices, disguise in church culture 40:10 Is Jesus the only way 41:20 Yeshua framing + Buddha practice claim 43:30 Awakening, callings, raising vibration 48:40 Polarity, correspondence, Taoism45:00 God is always good vs Noah’s flood 48:30 We are gods + reincarnation 51:00 Ogbanje claim + not wanting to return 54:20 Akashic records explained 56:10 Dreams, marks, movement in sleep 58:20 Ifa lineage background1:00:10 TB Joshua deliverance attempt 1:03:40 Manipulation and business allegations 1:09:20 Fear and power inside SCOAN 1:12:40 Prayer water discussion1:15:10 Words as spells 1:16:30 Psalms as spell words: money and protection 1:18:20 Return to sender references 1:20:10 Hellfire debate + “this world is hell” 1:23:30 Love as the solution + closing remarks Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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