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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Do you know what the show Seinfeld is?
Yeah.
Okay, all right. Have you seen a movie before?
The movie Seinfeld?
A movie.
A movie? Yeah. In my life?
I don't know. These thoughts were popping into my head while I was doing research. I was like, she may have not seen a movie before.
Yeah, I've seen a movie before.
Okay, all right. We got that out of the way.
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Chapter 2: What insights does FKA Twigs share about her creative process?
We have Anna Wintour. Give it up for her, guys. The devil wears Prada. You got, you tried to make me wear some, some like a poodle jacket before.
You wanted to wear it.
I didn't want to wear it.
I had to prize it off you.
I just wasn't sure if I was dressed cool enough. Cause you're like a very, you're a fashion, do you consider yourself a fashion icon? No. Are there any days where you just want to dress like shit?
Um, I have, I have this thing called the blues. So I have outfits which are all blue.
Oh, if you're sad?
No, if I just don't want to get dressed the whole hour.
Oh, like Picasso's blues, period.
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Chapter 3: How does Twigs describe her experience with fame and fandom?
Well, I mean, it's kind of weird where I grew up because it's quite... It's quite mixed, I would say.
Like working class and posh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that where I'm from, there's not a lot in the middle. What side were you on? It's like a commuter's town. I was very much working class, but like moonlighting as middle class.
Because when I first heard of you, you seemed very like highbrow, you know what I mean? And then when I found out you're kind of from like small town, it's like kind of was very like I didn't expect it, right?
Yeah, well, my parents are from, like, working-class Birmingham. Yeah. I have, like, my biological dad, who is from working-class Birmingham of Jamaican descent. My stepdad, who raised me... like actively till I was 11. He's like second generation from Barbados, like very working class, first black family in a working class area in Birmingham. And my mom's from the black country in Birmingham.
And again, like very just humble, chill beginning.
Yeah. Was there like a notion of class that stuck with you from a young age? Because I know you went to like a boarding school, like a good school, and you were like on scholarship or whatever it's called in England.
Yeah. So when I was 11, my mom just got it into her head that I was going to go to a private school, a Catholic school in Cheltenham. And she basically like coached me to get in. And I did a lot of like tests and throughout my summer holidays to get into this school that had good education. My primary school had said that I wasn't intelligent enough to go to the grammar school.
And so my mom was just like, hell no. And so she basically like coached me through the summer holidays to go to a private school.
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Chapter 4: What challenges does FKA Twigs face in the music industry today?
you know, mid to older teenager. And then I went back home and nothing was the same. I was like, I need to make it to a big city, like something can happen for me, but it's not going to happen for me here.
We're the same. We're the same guy. Seriously. I mean, honestly, I wanted to move to New York so bad. I thought it was nighttime, 24 hours a day. Everyone was the strokes. And I'm like, I'm going to move there. Or I thought it was Seinfeld where like an ugly Jewish guy could get like a really hot girl. And it turns out that that was kind of true.
Yeah, in New York, for sure.
Yeah, it's cheating.
I think there's a lot more girls than there are men in ratio.
There's a lot of gay guys.
Oh, is that what it is? I just thought there was more women to men.
Yeah, yeah. No, there's like a lot of gay guys, so the straight guys to straight women ratio is, I feel, I mean, it's incredible. It is a place where Costanza could go out with like a Victoria's Secret model. I thought it was just because it was on TV. Do you know what the show Seinfeld is? Yeah. Okay, all right. Have you seen the movie before?
The movie Seinfeld?
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Chapter 5: How does FKA Twigs define the concept of Eusexua?
Oh my gosh, so much.
Did you like it?
I really did. At times I felt very embarrassed by it, but now I'm so grateful. Because there was a lot of like acid jazz, jazz fusion music.
you know non-verbal jazz like people singing scat overbeats or um you know like the scatman song like um you know that song no i don't i was thinking more about like tanya maria oh she's a scatter yeah well one of her well a few tina marie uh tanya maria oh never mind
Did you ever, like, having, like, Caribbean roots and, like, being mixed race, did you ever get into, like, kind of, like, dub or reggae or, like, kind of second wave ska? Did you like the specials?
I did, but much later. I love the specials. I love the specials. That was more in my 20s. Like, for me, more in my teens, it was, like, discovering...
Bashment and Dancehall and because I grew up in a place called Cheltenham which is very white but then literally like 20 minutes away there's a place called Gloucester which is not only got like an amazing black community but also a Jamaican community.
Sound Clash? You went to like like dub and reggae?
No there was a club there called the Jamaican Club and it was when Dancehall and Bashment was huge and I remember going to that when I was 16.
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Chapter 6: How does Twigs connect her personal experiences to her art?
They were like 16, 17. But I'd always done stuff with her and all of my white friends in Cheltenham. You know, like whatever they wanted to do.
They partied.
Yeah, like go, I don't know, do stuff that my white friends wanted to do, like go to a skate park or... Celebrate Easter.
No, I mean, they liked that. What do you mean?
I'm sorry.
I'm not being mean.
No, I mean, like, talk about, like, getting a Tony and Guy haircut or get GHDs. What is that? Well, exactly. What is that?
I don't understand. I don't know what these white people are up to. Nor do I. Yeah, yeah.
No, like... Is that what they do?
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Chapter 7: What role does sensuality play in FKA Twigs' performances?
This is basically pre-internet.
What was it? Like Riot Grrrl?
It wasn't my band. It was kind of like my friend's band, and I would be like the additional backing singer in the band.
You were like the bez?
I don't know the best.
The guy in Happy Mondays with the tambourine?
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Chapter 8: What is Twigs' perspective on the evolution of music and art?
No, I was the backing singer, so I'd do additional screaming, I guess.
Really? Oh, so you didn't play any instruments?
No, I would scream to double his screaming.
Oh, it was a guy who was making you scream?
Yeah.
Was it a guy-girl band, or you were the only girl?
No, I was the only girl, but I was an addition. I wasn't the main one.
You were weird but popular. That's my new decision about you. I was... She was cool.
I can tell.
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