Chapter 1: What is Brad Thorn currently doing after his rugby career?
the agenda podcast the home of sporting nonsense and claptrap brought to you by export ultra rare thorn welcome firstly there'll be a lot of people who are listening who would like to know what you're up to at the moment oh thanks for having me guys um yeah i'm uh i actually coach first 15 rugby in brisbane that's um for one of the elite private schools over there and
It's been a tone down for me, I guess, coaching at Super Rugby level. It's been a really enjoyable couple of years, to be honest, and a few other things along with it.
What's the biggest difference with coaching the first 15? Can't swear at them, I suppose?
Do you know what? It's really cool. The kids haven't learned any bad habits yet. They're at the end of 12 years of study, so they're really open to learning. You know, it's been really enjoyable. You know, I've really enjoyed it.
Has it been successful? Has the team been successful? Because I'm just looking at pretty much every team you ever played for won. So are these guys winning as well?
I actually got a wooden spoon in Japan. Finally, the universe.
Finally, the universe.
I usually keep that secret. They've gone okay. We're sort of like... Mid-table, so yeah.
So on the front of the book, it says, lessons learned in footy and life to build a winning mindset. There's a lot of quotes in there from other people about, you know, you're winning, as Jerry just mentioned there. I feel like some people are just born winners. Do you feel like some people are born losers as well? Like, for example, this show here, we've been struggling.
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Chapter 2: What are the challenges of coaching first 15 rugby?
And he was two years older, and they basically kicked my butt for 15 years. So maybe for you guys, you know, as losers, you're going to learn about what it takes to win, and I see a bright future in you guys.
I want to know, like, how much of a role, you're talking about, you know, growing up with a father and a larger older brother. How much of a role did growing up in freezing, mosquil winters play in your mental and physical resilience?
Yeah, big time. Yeah. But it was more, I moved to a place called Bannockburn in a town called Cromwell in central Otago. And it used to be, as we ran on the field with the fast and we were just rugged and yeah, it's a great upbringing. Yep.
It's a freezing part of the camp.
Bannockburn on the rail trail? Yeah, it goes up past Alex, I think, all the way to Queenstown. Something I want to do one day when I get some time.
You played professional sport until you were 41. That's quite intense because it wasn't like you were hanging out on the wing or anything. You obviously enjoyed getting smashed. Do you miss getting smashed?
Sometimes, you know, I walk down the street and there'll be traffic lights and people are gathering on the other side of the road. And I see a pile of them, I want to smash them. And, you know, I'm like the old soldier that has PTSD. Yeah. And then I've got to remind myself, no, Brad, just walk nicely.
That's one of the funniest things I've ever heard anyone say in my life. It's so honest.
He sees bowling pins.
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Chapter 3: How does Brad Thorn define a winning mindset?
You mentioned World Cups and State of Origins and, you know, Rugby League Championships. You've played with some of the most talented players across all the codes. Who's the most talented player you ever played with?
Far out. Tough question. It's just so hard because, you know, you've got all your different positions. A talented guy, I can say, is Aaron Franks. Fuller's technique is a tight end prop, you know, or Tony Woodcock. You could say Dan Carter and you could say Darren Lockyer, Alan Langer, all these guys. It's just too much.
Like you said, privileged to play with so many great talents, but more importantly, great men.
Was there ever any one of those guys, though, who was just good at everything? Because sometimes, you know, you might be playing golf with a dude. I've heard Mitchell Santa, for example, from the Blackcaps, basically is good at every single sport that he ever plays, whether it's darts or pool or golf. Was there anyone who was just kind of good at just everything?
Yeah, you know, there's a lot of guys like that. And a lot of, you know, you go further back, you know, everyone was playing every sport, you know. So Alan Lang was a great cricketer. There's so many guys great at different sports. They're just athletes and they're super talented.
Ever been in a fight with a teammate at practice?
Fights? Push and shove, you know, maybe use someone's face to get up with my knee. But I'm generally very tight with my team and protective, you know, so it was more always about my... And my biggest thing was not, and this is what Beaver used to do to me and Kahui, they knew that my weakness was I found it hard playing against people I liked and they would try and be friendly to me.
And again, the Chiefs versus Crusaders, we go, hey, Tony, how you going? I'm like, get away from me. Get away from me, Beaver and Richard. So that was my challenge.
Trying to buddy up.
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