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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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And it is tour and wraps. Josh Sexton here today with Ian Salmon and Jimmy Carr to look a bit of the managerial merry-go-round because it felt like maybe there was a point, gents, where Liverpool may be caught up in that. It seems like that's not going to be the case now. Liverpool seem to have, you know, all but nailed their colours to the mast in sticking with Arnaud Slot.
How are we sort of feeling about that first and foremost? Because...
I've been having a sort of head and heart battle all season, really, where it maybe has shown up every time I've done a show where I kind of come into the Anfield wrap or when I'm thinking about the manager and his position in Liverpool, my heart is kind of saying, like, well, I don't necessarily want him to be sacked because we had the league again last season and we had all those, you know, great times with him.
But equally, as the season went on and as things kind of got worse, the head was kind of telling me, well, maybe he's not necessarily the right one to take Liverpool forward. It seems now he's going to be. So, yeah, how are we feeling about that?
I've been in exactly the same position all season. I don't like the idea of... I don't want to be a club that sacks a league winner manager.
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Chapter 2: What managerial changes are being discussed for the Premier League?
I don't want to be that club. I don't want to be the ones who go, well, you were great last season, but now you're shit, so we're getting rid of you. I don't want to be Leicester, basically, because you spiral down as soon as you start doing that. I don't want to be a club that sacks managers at the slightest whim because you end up being Man United post-Ferguson.
where David Moyes took on one of the hardest jobs in football. And David Moyes with Everson now has proven how good a manager he is, and he proved it with West Ham, what he can actually do. But he wasn't the right manager for United at the time, but he was the anointed one by Ferguson himself.
So, as soon as you sack him, then the next person gets less time and the next person gets less time and the next person gets less time. And so you're going in little slices until you become Chelsea, where you give a guy a six-year contract and sack him after three months because the dressing room don't like him because he has no authority. They want somebody with more respect.
Well, try respecting that lad there.
Chapter 3: Why is Liverpool sticking with Arne Slot despite recent performance?
He'll have more respect. So I don't want to be that club. At the same time, there have been so many times this season where I'm like, he can't do this anymore. He's gone full on Brendan Rodgers. He's saying bizarre things in press conferences. He's not getting what we want. He's not getting the football we want. Football we're playing.
Chapter 4: How do emotions affect opinions on managerial decisions?
Football we're playing last year was not as enjoyable as Jürgen's, but he was getting results. football we're playing this year has not been as enjoyable as last year and isn't getting the results and whereas his substitutions last year were fantastic this year they've been appalling and at the same time you know the thing that People don't necessarily like a saying about the season.
In the summer, he had to manage the loss of one of his footballers. And there are very few managers that have ever had to do that. It's not something that happens very often. And he managed it with dignity and he seems to manage the people really well. So with that, I think with winning the league, you get another shot. I think you get another chance of showing where you are.
And this season, hopefully this season has been a blip. You know, if we'd have sacked him three weeks ago and Xabi Alonso came in, I'd have been, yes, sound, fine, that'll do for me. But all the briefing is, all the briefing seems to be, that he's staying, that the club will decide that he's the man to take him forward. So it's not down to me to say he has to prove anything to me.
Because he doesn't know who the hell I am and probably doesn't give a toss about me. So, you know, there's loads of people who don't give a toss about me. I'm sound about that.
but as a fan base I think he needs to hit the ground running he needs to make good decisions and the sporting director needs to make good decisions I think between the two of them they need to have a better season than they've had this season I think that's the thing isn't it Jimmy is that they're going to kind of
see it as a team responsibility and when i say that i mean richard hughes i mean michael edwards is funny i was i was sort of trying to think about because there's been you know a fair amount for the same people who've been saying that they want anna sacks saying they want richard hughes and michael edwards sacked and i was like i don't actually know what the day-to-day of their jobs looks like really it's not always just signing footballs it might be going out scouting footballs and whatever but i don't really know that personally so it's hard for me to argue that i think they're like terrible at their jobs
I think the fact that Richard Hughes came out and spoke with Arne Slott at the start I mean has not been seen since has been sort of slightly strange besides like one video for the club but besides that he's a man whose job has been hard to judge Arne Slott as Ian says over the course this season has been much more you know in the firing line there to be judged every time he speaks in a press conference I've been like you know for the most part disappointed or at least non-plussed by it whereas I feel like every time Jurgen spoke for example and I hate doing the years and fires thing but every time Jurgen spoke for example
you'd always feel like you came out of it bored even if it was like bad news or he'd got into an argument with a journalist something you'd kind of come away from it buzzing whereas it feels like with slot this season that's not really been the case and yet I wonder when they've sort of looked at this bit bigger picture and thought for one it's a very FSG thing to do to be like the manager's got one year left on his contract
we'll go into this final year and that will be the real litmus test because as Ian said you don't want to sack a league winning manager but if somebody got a manager who's on a three-year contract and has two terrible years and only one good one well the bad outweighs the good then doesn't it so I think they'll be looking at it thinking that and it will be you know a real make or break year going into that but also there's maybe just not an obvious and gettable candidate like for all the talk of Xabi Alonso how gettable actually is he
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Chapter 5: What lessons can be learned from past managerial sackings?
it like obviously he's going to be in the final line slot but i'm not defending him but it's not solely his fault it's not solely richard shoes's fault it's not solely michael edward's fault it's not van dyke's fault it's not any individual's fault it's a group performance and as a group we've failed this year with being really poor and
it's been really shit and you look at the the sort of options you could potentially replace slot with to kind of steady the ship a little bit and you look at all the other teams we're in position for a manager as well there's two teams at the minute who haven't got a manager and it's like at the minute i think they're more like likely to get somebody than we are because we've got two years and one of his years he's got a lot of credibility for because he's won the premier league
This year has been really poor. And like Ian said before, if you were to turn around to me two or three weeks ago and said, he's gone, I'd have gone, okay, that's fine.
I've kind of looked at this season as a bit of a double-edged sword because I don't want to go down that United-Chelsea route where you sack someone and then within six weeks they don't satisfy you so you get rid of them again and again and again and then you get in that sort of merry-go-round cycle. But I also...
we're not happy with the performances that have been given but you've kind of got to take it with a bit of a pinch of salt and go yeah we've got one year left because this season was a write off from Christmas time okay we had the hopes of the Champions League and the potential FA Cup but we had Man City and PSG and with the way we were playing there was fucking no chance we were beating either of them
And you could see across the two games, we got beat 8-0. Like, we got wiped the floor against the two sides. So you've kind of got to look at it, take a bit of pinch assault with the kind of situation and go, if you put him into this season, he's now got a year of, he knows who he's got.
He now understands Folly and Vert, he understands Izak, he now understands the players that he's got to work with and he's now got a year to kind of proper settle in and get them get them embedded into the squad and maybe play with them because we've even sort of looked at the injuries. Izak hasn't been fit all season. He comes back and Eckert, he came up to the Achilles.
Like, we've not had any luck at all this season.
You can't just sprain his ankle. Yeah. You're up to the Achilles when there's nobody anywhere near you. Yeah, yeah. God, when Woodman went down at the weekend, I was like, seriously? Well, yeah. I was actually quite up for the idea of seeing the fourth-trace kicker. God, be sad behind the cameras at your moments. I wouldn't recognise him.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Liverpool's management decisions for the club's future?
Whereas if you look at that squad with Amarant, they were trying to over-complicate everything. Kobe Maynard was getting dropped. There was always...
well yeah but now he's just signed the new deal and there's now there was constant talk and debate about certain players and individuals in that sort of camp but now it seems like he's gone he's gone to basics right this is what we're doing we're doing this and that's it whether he's like it or not
And he's got the basics right with the players he's got, rather than trying to wed the players he's got to a system that doesn't suit him.
Exactly, and that's what I think Amarant was trying to do. All these players are being brought in for this 3-4-3 sort of style that doesn't really fit.
I know they're kind of playing a three-back at the minute, but you watch them against, like, Brentford last night, and they did against, I don't know, City a couple of months back, or whoever, and the juxtaposition of the football that they're playing.
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Yeah, I think there's almost a parallel with sort of back into Hodgson into Kenny here with United as well, Ian, where Kenny sort of being almost the pure interim in the way that FSG kind of considered him. Katarik could just be that, where it was just like, we need a positive in this coming, someone who understands the club, someone who can kind of lift it.
Because I used to always watch Amram and I was like, I don't know how your players could ever feel inspired by you because the way he speaks in press conferences is so negative, so consistent and negative about the play.
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Chapter 7: How does the managerial merry-go-round affect team dynamics?
But if that's the answer for next season, being PSG, we could, well, the Premier League just ends up paying us more for making a more attractive proposition.
And another team who could feed into that, Jimmy, is Newcastle because it feels like Eddie Howe's time may have come to an end there.
There was a really funny thing, you might have seen this because you're as online as I am, where they've done the relegation race and someone quoted us saying they're not in the picture and then they photoshopped Newcastle in on 42 points, so not yet safe at the moment. I think they will because I've just still got this thing that I think Spurs are going to go down.
But it does feel like Eddie Howe's time may have come to an end there. He was the first.
appointment that the Saudi ownership made and I'm just wondering now whether they'll try and flex their pockets a bit more deeply it's interesting that Mourinho it seems like is going to go to Real Madrid because I'd have had him as almost one of those like yeah you know big sports washing the front of this in the face of this kind of managerial appointments where there you go oh actually we want someone who just is an attractive name as much as anything I know he would swing the football back to the dark age of Mourinho because he is want to do but I wouldn't clubs the ground in three years yeah
I do wonder when I look at someone who's sort of you know almost in this like young attracting composition of football now and to be honest the one name who's you know constantly been at the side of all these conversations is maybe even Xabi Alonso I think the weird thing for Newcastle is when they had this kind of a side to take over they brought all these brilliant players in and these like flashy players and they've had Eddie Howe who's like your courser at the wheel whereas they've had all the Ferraris and the Lamborghinis in the garage waiting to go and that's the thing that I find weird the likes of Sandro Tenali
Izak last year, Gordon, Joe Lytton, Gimeresh, all these brilliant players have been managed by him. He's done a brilliant job to start, don't get me wrong, but the wheels have fallen off big time because his mileage is really well.
It's the bit I think they did right, almost for a sports washing project especially, is they actually tried to build a bit incrementally. Even the signings they made at the start, as expensive as they were, it didn't jump straight to the Ferrari.
It was Keenan Sippy at first, wasn't it? It was kind of trying to steady the ship and the flashiness. But I think as well, if you want to get the best out of these players, you need someone who knows how to use it instead of someone who's used to playing this shit kind of dire football that they're now experiencing.
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Chapter 8: Who are the potential candidates for managerial positions in the Premier League?
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