The Pub Crawlers Podcast: Chester (S1E1)

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Hi, I'm Rob Goodman.
Rob Gutmann 0:11
This is the Pub Crawlers podcast. Today we're in historic Chester, in the historic Cross Keys pubs.

What makes a pub truly authentic?

Rob Gutmann 0:17
We talked about what makes a pub truly authentic. We talked about first dates in pubs. We talked about, yeah, we talked about Hitler a bit. And we talked about James's forays into gay porn. Anyway, let's go look at some pubs.
James Sutton 0:35
Are you wearing a thong? It looked like something the devil had shat out.
Fenner Pearson 0:38
I'm just so sensitive and clever. This isn't the Rax chat that I wanted to have.
James Sutton 0:42
Form an orderly queue, I am wearing a jockstrap. Digging the pub I chose. It's a good pub, isn't it? You excel yourself every single time. Have you seen the windows, by the way? I've seen the windows. Beautiful.

How do first dates in pubs differ from other venues?

James Sutton 0:55
They're not original windows. I spoke to the landlord.
Rob Gutmann 0:58
Oh, someone's done their research. Oh, you spoke to the landlord. I googled it.
James Sutton 1:03
Yeah, they're Jules windows.
Rob Gutmann 1:07
Yeah, this is the Cross Keys. For those who don't know, the Cross Keys, which is a great pub in Chester. Probably my favourite pub in Chester, James. And yes, I think it's about in the 90s. I'm going to say 90s, maybe 10 years later. It was sort of reimagined and I think they've done a hell of a job.
James Sutton 1:22
It's beautiful. This is the most northern Jules pub. Is it? Yeah. I thought you'd done your research.
Rob Gutmann 1:29
I can't be schooling you on the pub. Do you know what? I've quietly drunk in quite a number of their pubs. I think they're based in Market Drayton. Yes, they are. Shropshire. Yeah. So, yeah, around Shropshire I've drunk them dry. So much so that I'm addled enough to not actually remember where their pubs are. Yeah, do you like it, Fanner? You up for this?
Fenner Pearson 1:48
Your kind of pub? I like wood panelling. I'm always a massive fan of wood panelling, and this looks great in here.
Rob Gutmann 1:54
Yeah, it is. It's an interesting thing when a pub is... Obviously, from the outside, it's Victorian exterior. I'm going to check my notes. I don't know, 1890-something. Let's say 1894, in fact. 1894, this pub was rebuilt. So it's a Victorian pub. It's beautiful. from the outside so there was a pub here before that then you said it was rebuilt oh Christ 1782 there was something going on I don't know bits have been going on for years what people who come to like this podcast will appreciate is the thoroughness of the historical research and that's going to be one of the things they talk about so yeah as we used to as kids in the old fashioned days it's a beautifully rebuilt Victorian classic but the interior has been reimagined and I am going to find oh Jesus Christ scrolling it's online admin
Rob Gutmann 2:41
So nothing is actually authentic internally that you see. Probably there is something somewhere, but very little.

What role does historical research play in pub design?

Rob Gutmann 2:50
And I ask the question, I ask the question, James, does it fucking matter? As long as if you walk in and you go and you don't know, right, the provenance. If you walk in and you go, it looks like my fantasy of a Victorian pub. It clearly is from the outside. Is that enough? Is that enough for the romance to burn brightly enough for you?
James Sutton 3:13
Yeah, 100%. It's all about the experience while you're there, surely. You're not there because you're taking notes on the history and the complexities of the age of the pub. It's all about the experience when you're there. I think if it looks nice, and I always love the smell of wood-panelled pubs. There's something about it, isn't there? There's an undertone of... I was going to say an undertone of violence there, but that's not, that's really not what I meant. There's an undertone of... That's an of varnish. Yeah, of varnish.
Rob Gutmann 3:42
See, I like the smell of Dettol in a pub, to be honest with you.
James Sutton 3:45
I do. Is the smell of Dettol not covering up the smell of, like, vomit? Is that...
Rob Gutmann 3:51
Yeah. It's just associative. You know what I mean? It's covering up the smell of vomit. A very old pub. Decades of cigarettes and shit and vomit. But it's interesting, the provenance of a pub is... I started in my career sort of becoming, sort of, I don't know, restoring some old pubs, but also creating some from scratch. Yeah, for sure. And the first one I did was about four or five years ago called The Red Lion in Liverpool.

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