New AI Policy Update on Safety, Censorship & Unexpected Risks

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What AI policy updates and political factors are introduced at the start of the episode?

Marc Andreessen 0:00
What what would be the single like dumbest thing that we could do? Just stop ourselves from innovating? Stop ourselves, right? Like put ankle weights uh around our own feet. That is the way to basically snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory in a way that I is like that's that's a level of self-harm that would be so cosmic. I mean, quite frankly, if we do that, we deserve to lose. The content here is for informational purposes only, should not be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security, and is not directed at any investor or potential investors in any A sixteen Z fund. Please note that A16Z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed in this podcast.
Marc Andreessen 0:39
For more details, including a link to our investments, please see A16Z.com/slash disclosures. Welcome back uh to the Mark and Ben show. We are going to uh discuss uh third in a series of AI updates. The previous two were on uh very uh fun and interesting and important topics. The first was on uh on uh AI bots and crypto and uh the saga of truth terminal.
Ben Horowitz 1:02
By the way, what is uh the uh goat coins market cap up to these days?
Marc Andreessen 1:07
It it varies about it varies around. All right. It's fallen. It's fallen to four hundred and fifty million dollars. Ah, all right. All right. All right. Yeah, I peaked at like eight eight hundred or something like that. Yeah, it's pretty good for a butt. For a bot. So uh and actually I I I don't know if this is actually accurate, but uh I saw a reference. I haven't double checked it, but I saw a reference. I think the the some some some set of people, I don't know who, I don't know who, because as we said before, we're not involved in the coin, but somebody airdropped some of the coin to the bot, uh, to the bot's wallet. And apparently the bot the the reference I saw today is the bot owns on the order of five million dollars um worth of worth of worth of GOAT coin.
Marc Andreessen 1:40
So the bot, you know, has you know the bot has substantial resources now. Um Um yeah,
Ben Horowitz 1:45
it'll be
Marc Andreessen 1:45
interesting
Ben Horowitz 1:46
to see what the bot does with it.
Marc Andreessen 1:47
What what the bot chooses chooses to do.
Ben Horowitz 1:50
Does the bot have the exocortex now? Can can it actually uh Trade can it can it trade on the
Marc Andreessen 1:58
blockchain? I am not positive. Yeah. And so we uh Andy uh and actually Andy may we'll post in the show notes, Andy, Andy Ari who created create created the bot actually just did his own first podcast, which I actually haven't listened to yet that I think came out today. So uh he may talk about it in that. But yes, that will be a uh that will be if if that hasn't already happened, that will be another interesting, uh interesting moment. So uh yeah, so the truth terminal saga continues and then uh then the second episode we talked about uh robotics and you know, much more serious episode. because of the the nature of uh that, you know, kind of challenge, including for the US uh in the years ahead. I just uh signed off by the way on a purchase of a of a I think a twenty-eight thousand dollar biped robot from China.
Marc Andreessen 2:36
Yeah. All right. So like these things are coming down in price very fast. And then I saw a video of, I don't can't remember who did it, but I saw a video of the first humanoid bot that has an a that has a full human stride. Uh right. So so because of the the the because of the challenge of balancing up until now they've had this kind of you know offbeat offbeat stride and and there there's there's at least a video of one now that has a you know it looks like a person walking. So these things are getting pretty good pretty quickly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so for this uh third episode, uh we thought we would uh uh basically do it uh do an update on policy. And so uh, you know, just the the overall topics of AI policy, which of course also means uh AI politics, and then is of course a big uh US uh question, but also increasingly an international question.
Ben Horowitz 3:19
And an election, actual US election question, interestingly.
Marc Andreessen 3:23
Yes. And I think Ben, you you or I would agree that regardless of which side you're on, which which which who wins this uh uh the who wins this uh presidential election could have a big bearing on AI policy, as well as by the way, who gets the House and Senate, um, because there are a lot of bills and a lot of issues that are are pending.

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