Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Pricing
Podcast Image

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2309 - Tucker Carlson Sabotages America

03 Nov 2025

41 min duration
7246 words
6 speakers
03 Nov 2025
Description

In today’s episode, we discuss the most important thing happening in the country - the purposeful fragmentation of the political right. Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/3WDjgHE Ep.2309 - - - Facts Don’t Care About Your Feelings - - - DailyWire+: Join us now during our exclusive Deal of the Decade. Get everything for $7 a month. Not as fans. As fighters. Go to DailyWire.com/Subscribe to join now. Finally, Friendly Fire is here! No moderator, no safe words. Now available at https://www.dailywire.com/show/friendly-fire Get your Ben Shapiro merch here: https://bit.ly/3TAu2cw - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3cXUn53  Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3QtuibJ  Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3TTirqd  Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPyBiB - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Audio
Transcription

Full Episode

0.031 - 20.841 Ben Shapiro

Hey folks, I want to do something different on today's show. We're going to cover one topic in depth. That topic is, I think, the most important thing happening in the country. It was a hot topic last week, but I wanted to take some time to really gather my thoughts and speak on it in coherent fashion, holistic fashion. That topic is the fragmentation of the political right.

0

21.108 - 40.038 Ben Shapiro

That fragmentation is being caused purposefully by a splinter faction of people led by a young man named Nick Fuentes. They call themselves the Groypers. They are white supremacists. They hate women, Jews, Hindus, many types of Christians, brown people of a wide variety of backgrounds, blacks, America's foreign policy, and America's constitution. They admire Hitler and Stalin.

0

40.76 - 53.938 Ben Shapiro

And that splinter faction is now being facilitated and normalized within the mainstream Republican Party. The main agent in that normalization is Tucker Carlson, who is an intellectual coward, a dishonest interlocutor, and a terrible friend.

0

54.659 - 72.22 Ben Shapiro

And Tucker Carlson last week was aided, abetted, celebrated for normalizing Nazism within the Republican Party by the mainstay organization of the traditional right, the Heritage Foundation. Now, before we explain what's been happening, let's make one thing clear. This is not about free speech or cancellation. It was never about free speech or cancellation.

0

72.78 - 89.519 Ben Shapiro

Free speech has a definition, the right to speak free of governmental coercion. I believe in it, of course. I've always defended it. Criticism of bad speech is, in fact, just a form of free speech. Cancellation also has a definition. The banning of particular people, including people like Nick Fuentes, from platforms like X or Facebook.

89.98 - 108.322 Ben Shapiro

I believe that Nick Fuentes is odious and despicable, but I've never called for his cancellation. And in fact, I've called for his restoration to those services, despite the fact that I think he's odious and despicable. It is not cancellation to draw moral lines between viewpoints. In fact, we used to call that one of the key aspects of conservatism.

108.922 - 128.487 Ben Shapiro

It is not cancellation to refuse to signal boost Hitler supporters like Nick Fuentes. It is not cancellation to criticize Tucker Carlson for rhetorically fluffing Nick Fuentes and other anti-American crackpots. It's not cancellation if you urge others to stop promoting those who rhetorically fluff Nazi apologists. Those are all elements of free speech.

128.467 - 142.361 Ben Shapiro

And anyone who says differently is lying to you and lying for the most cynical reasons to misdirect from their own defense of those Nazi apologists and their promoters. The issue here isn't that Tucker Carlson had Nick Flantes on his show last week. He has every right to do that, of course.

142.822 - 162.225 Ben Shapiro

The issue here is that Tucker Carlson decided to normalize and fluff Nick Flantes and that the Heritage Foundation then decided to robustly defend that performance. Those who criticize both Tucker and Heritage aren't canceling. They are quite properly drawing a moral line. So for those who don't understand what's going on, let's begin with Nick Fuentes.

Comments

There are no comments yet.

Please log in to write the first comment.