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Chapter 1: What recent event involving ICE sparked political outrage?
Already, we'll get to the latest in Minneapolis, where the state government of Minnesota seems to be threatening the federal government under Tim Walz. Astonishing stuff. The rhetoric of the left with regard to ICE keeps ratcheting up. And the latest in Iran. Plus, we're joined by the secretary of energy, Chris Wright. Big show for you today.
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We are looking at the very real possibility of a standoff between the state government led by Tim Walz, the former vice presidential candidate under Kamala Harris and current governor who just had to step away from a third term run in Minnesota because of all of the allegations of fraud with which he was caught up. a standoff between that government and the federal government.
That is something now being pushed very hard by Tim Walz, even as new details emerge as to who is behind the Minneapolis ice resistance movement and new details emerge about Renee Good, who is the woman who was shot and killed by an ice officer.
Well, apparently in the process of either attempting to escape ice or to possibly run down an officer who was essentially on the front left bumper of her vehicle. According to the New York Post,
Renee Good, the mom who was killed by a federal agent after veering her card toward him, was an anti-ICE warrior and was part of a group of activists who worked to document and resist the federal immigration crackdown in Minnesota, according to the New York Post. Now, of course, obstruction of the law enforcement community in its pursuit of the enforcement of law is in and of itself a crime.
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Chapter 2: How is the Minnesota government responding to federal immigration enforcement?
He put out a press statement, quote, Governor Tim Walz has authorized the Minnesota National Guard to be staged and ready to support local and state law enforcement in protecting critical infrastructure and maintaining public safety following a shooting involving federal immigration enforcement agents in South Minneapolis.
Now, will the National Guard be protecting infrastructure from rioters or are they there to obstruct ICE in their performance of their federal duties? That's a question because of the way that Walls is talking. Of course, the latter would be a crime. Walls said, quote, Minnesotans have met the moment. Thousands of people have peacefully made their voices heard. Minnesota, thank you.
We saw powerful peace. We have every reason to believe that the peace will hold. Yesterday, I directed the National Guard to be ready should all of this be needed. By the way, Minnesota actually canceled classes.
They actually canceled school in Minneapolis because of this, which is fairly incredible that a controversial shooting involving an activist who appears to have been aiming her car at an ICE agent, at the very least clipped the ICE agent before being shot, that that results in kids being released from school Why? Because they're so afraid of riots and that that's going to take over the schools?
If so, what does that say about Tim Walz's governance in the city? By the way, worth noting, the ICE agent who was involved in this shooting had apparently previously been rammed by a car. That is according to Daily Wire. The officer himself apparently was transported to a nearby hospital, was later released.
Kristi Noem said that the agent involved had already been rammed by a car in a previous encounter, pointing out that ICE alone is facing a 1300% increase in assaults against them and an 8,000% increase in death threats against ICE agents. In fact, DHS put out an entire list with evidence of the various attacks and assaults that have been performed on ICE agents.
Earlier this year, a Tren de Aragua suspect rammed law enforcement, a vehicle into a tree. There are two separate vehicular assaults in Chicago. The pictures are evident. They're put out by Department of Homeland Security. An ICE officer was hit with a car, nearly crushing him. If you go back to September of last year, a sniper, as you'll recall, attacked an ICE facility in Dallas.
So something quite dangerous is happening. When you create a permission structure that suggests that ICE is the problem, when you create that permission structure and you say that they are the Gestapo, that they are evil, that they are Nazis, then it shouldn't be a gigantic surprise when people start treating them as such and violence increases. Now, in the midst of all of this,
The agent who is involved is actually unmasked online. You want to know why ICE agents are masked? The reason is because their lives come under threat thanks to actions like this. So the ICE agent apparently was unmasked. which puts his life at risk for sure. Get to more on this in a moment. First, you know, it's tough to relax for me, like as a general rule. I get in bed at night.
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Chapter 3: What role did Renee Good play in the anti-ICE movement?
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And the Democrats just cannot stop upping the ante. So yesterday, Tim Walz, again, the governor of Minnesota, who right now is in a world of hurt politically because of that Somali fraud. Remember, this ICE activity was initiated based on reports of not only Somali fraud, but illegal immigrants from Somalia engaged in fraud. Tim Walz. compared this moment to the civil war.
It's now the civil war. If you send ICE to enforce arrest warrants against criminals in the country, Tim Wall says it's now a civil war.
When things looked really bleak, it was Minnesota's first that held that line for the nation on that July 3rd, 1863. And I think now we may be in that moment, that the nation's looking to us to hold the line on democracy, to hold the line on decency, to hold the line on accountability, and more than that, to rise up as neighbors and simply say, we can look out for one another.
We can have differences. but we've proved to the world going on 250 years that our democracy could hold, it feels to me like we're at one of those inflection points.
It's an inflection, like a civil war inflection point. Now, one of the things that I've said many, many times is that when you have high level politicians talking this way about the country, it is very bad for the country. Truly bad. When you say we are at the point where we are, we are at blows, we are going to go to war with one another. It's a civil war that's about to break out.
It's the end of the country. These sorts of things from political leaders turn into self... perpetuating prophecies. They turn into self-fulfilling prophecies because the more people believe that they can't get along with their neighbors and that there is no basis for a common Americanism, the more they are likely to see each other as enemies and not just sometimes political opponents.
Yesterday, Tim Walz called for a moment of silence, which is to take place today. Of course, he used some pretty charged language.
In Minnesota, I'm declaring tomorrow at 10 a.m. on January 9th, I'd ask everyone to pause for a moment of silence to remember Renee Goode, also to remember all that's good and right about this nation. And I'm going to ask folks, if they can, I'd ask employers to give their people some space. I'd ask each and every one to find a way to contribute in your community.
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Chapter 4: How have Democrats characterized ICE's actions in recent events?
Meanwhile, the mayor of Minneapolis, who's been similarly outrageous. He told ICE to get the F out of here, which, of course, as the mayor of a city, you do not have the law enforcement power to do. And then he suggested that Rene Good had been murdered, which, again, even if you wanted to take the pro-Rene Good side of this equation, the claim that it wasn't at least disputed is insane.
You can watch that tape and you can come away with varying interpretations. The point I made yesterday is that it is not about the intent of Renee Good when she is driving the car, whether or not the officer is prosecuted. It is about the intent of the officer and his reasonable perception that there is a deadly threat to his life. And again, all of that presumably will be investigated.
There will be investigations held into where the shots were fired from, where they fired from the front of the car, where they fired from the side of the car, which matters because presumably if you fire from the front of the car while you are theoretically being run over, maybe there's an imminent danger of deadly threat. If you're now to the side of the car, does the same rule now apply?
But calling it a plain case of murder is nuts. But this is the Minneapolis mayor. And we should remember that this is part and parcel of a generalized dislike for law enforcement, period. This is the same guy who is doing the ridiculous prostrating himself before the woke gods over George Floyd. Here he was back in 2020 at a struggle session, the Minneapolis mayor.
You have to take responsibility here.
I've been coming to grips with my own brokenness in this situation, my own failures, my own shortcomings, and I know there needs to be deep-seated, instructional reform in terms of how the department operates.
The systemic, the racist system needs to be revamped.
That's who this pathetic person is. Truly pathetic. Well, he has a piece in the New York Times today calling the Trump administration liars. Quote, the actions of the ICE agents deployed to my city are dangerous and now even deadly. But that danger has been compounded by the administration's claim that the victim committed an act of domestic terrorism.
The Trump administration's false narrative about this week's shooting and the demonization of the victim are only part of a bigger lie. So again, I think that the categorization of the woman who shot her, Renee Good, as a domestic terrorist, I don't see the evidence for that. I see evidence that she was violating federal law by impeding ICE in its pursuit of the law.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of labeling ICE as a terrorist organization?
Why? Because they were effectuating the law? Why? I need an explanation. But again, this is all part and parcel of a broader left-wing argument that we are now living under a dictatorship, which, of course, is not even remotely true. Because if we were, Tim Walz would not be doing what he's doing. Neither would Kathy Hochul. Neither would Jacob Fry.
Here's Joy Behar making the dumb person's case on all of this, as per our usual arrangement.
Just this last week, I'm just going to give you a summary of what we've been through. One week, Pete Hegsett started an illegal war for oil in Venezuela. Right. Stephen Miller threatened a military takeover of Greenland. Mm-hmm. RFK Jr. slashed childhood vaccine recommendations. And ICE shot and killed a United States citizen in Minneapolis. Yeah.
That sort of adds up to me like a dictatorship in the making. That we are now in it. We are in it now.
Yes.
It's a dictatorship in the making. Again, you keep saying this stuff. You keep saying this stuff. And then you wonder why people are ramming cars into ICE agents because you're telling them. You are telling them that they are a threat to your family. You are telling these people that ICE is a threat to Americans' families. Now, we've talked about permission structures for violence.
We've talked about it over and over again on the show, particularly since the death of Charlie Kirk. We've talked about there are specific ideologies that lead to an increase in violence.
Those ideologies posit that there is some sort of conspiratorial force out to get you, that there is specific danger to you and people like you, and that the only way to prevent that force from harming you is to preemptively harm them. And there are certain ideologies that are caught up in this. They threaten your identity. Therefore, they must be killed.
That is why it took a person who is pro-trans radicalism apparently to shoot Charlie. Okay, well, the same thing is true here.
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Chapter 6: How is the situation in Iran affecting U.S. foreign policy?
This is not. Here's Scott Besson explaining. This is the anti-Iraq. And anti-Iraq, the... Iraq had a big bureaucracy, like hundreds of years, and it was just wiped out. And it was chaos. So for now, we want to stabilize the existing structure and then go from there. Joining us on the line is Secretary of Energy Chris Wright.
Yesterday, the president released a fact sheet talking about Venezuela, the oil industry in Venezuela. Secretary Wright, thanks so much for the time. Really appreciate it.
Thanks for having me, Ben.
So let's talk about why, first of all, the United States is even interested in oil from Venezuela. The sort of general perception in the United States is that we are fully oil independent. We don't need more oil. Is there a difference between Venezuelan oil and the other kind of oil that we are fracking, for example, in Pennsylvania?
There is. The Venezuelan oil is more viscous. It's heavier crude. It's perfect for asphalt and making certain products. Also, in general, it's cheaper. So when a lot of our refineries were built in the 60s and 70s, Venezuela was a major oil supplier to the United States, and we built refineries. It's more capital, more intense refineries that can process this cheaper, high-viscosity crude.
And then, of course, Venezuela... Over the ensuing decades, it's fallen off a cliff, destroyed its country through socialism and top-down control. And so we have to find that heavy, viscous crude elsewhere. So yeah, it's beneficial for the U.S.
refineries, but really the short-term agenda with Venezuela is stop the criminality, stop the import of drugs and gangs and violence into the United States. It's just made our hemisphere a worse place to do business and a worse place to prosper. We want to fix Venezuela because that's good for Americans. Of course, it'll be good for Venezuelans, too.
So, Secretary, looking at the release that you've put out at the Energy Department, you say that it's going to help unleash prosperity and peace across the Western Hemisphere, this current U.S.-Venezuela energy deal, which would leave the United States in charge, essentially, of oil sales and disbursements therefrom. Explain how that would work.
Yes, so look, people for 25 years have tried to stop the slide to destruction that Venezuela's been in, and President Trump just found a more creative idea. Look, there have been sanctions on Venezuelan oil, but unfortunately, they're just poorly enforced. The president said, look, they're so dependent on oil sales and drug sales as a side business, but their biggest cash source is oil sales,
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Chapter 7: What are the potential consequences of unrest in Iran?
And there's huge incentives here. If they start to move in those positive directions, what does that mean? That means American businesses are going to go back into Venezuela. Venezuelans' oil production is going to grow again, which is going to generate more revenue, more money for them. But you're right. We're going to use that leverage. This money is only flowing if things improve in Venezuela.
Their interactions with the United States changed dramatically, and they start to improve their country. Ultimately, this is a process that will take some time, but at the end of the day, we want to see representative government, democracy, freedom, pro-American government in power in Venezuela. That's a transition from where they are today. Absolutely. That's a process.
But we want to do that through a process without it becoming a failed state or going back to the narco-terrorist state it's been for the last 20 years.
So, Secretary, one of the other questions that's arisen here is getting American companies involved in the oil industry in Venezuela requires a level of stability and an assurance that things aren't going to take a turn for the worse, that Venezuela isn't going to renationalize its oil fields as soon as, for example, President Trump is out of office or the United States is not going to simply walk away from this arrangement and leave American companies who do require years and years of investment in order to see any sort of recapitalization.
holding the bag. What sort of measures is the Trump administration looking forward to taking for the long term that ensure the security of investments and that transitional process?
Yes. And so there's talk about, oh, they need tens of billions of dollars to rebuild massive infrastructure. That's true. And that'll take a long time. That's not going to start next week. But what is going to happen, Chevron's been there for 100 years continuously. Now we're gonna have a constructive Venezuelan government, a more active involvement from the US government.
Can Chevron expand and grow their operations like starting tomorrow? Yes, they can. Do they want to do that? Yes, they do. So it's not a matter of the government having to twist anyone's arm or make stuff or even give them guarantees.
They just see President Trump and the US government's involvement automatically makes business conditions better in Venezuela, and they've been operating under the existing conditions. These are improving business conditions today. And companies that recently left or been looking to go in, they're like, hey, now I think is a good time. People are going to go in slowly.
The rate of investment is going to pick up from near nothing to meaningful amounts. But the $10 billion, 10-year development projects, they may not start for another year or two. But that's OK. The trajectory has been only downward. The trajectory immediately is going to be upward.
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