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Ep. 2353 - Another Ridiculous Media LIE About ICE!

23 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 34.172 Ben Shapiro

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Chapter 2: What is the truth behind the media's claim about ICE using a child as bait?

845.063 - 860.486 J.D. Vance

A lot of these guys are unable to do their jobs without being harassed, without being doxxed, and sometimes without being assaulted. That's totally unacceptable. And that's one of the things that I want to send a message to is, yes, come out and protest. Protest me. Protest our immigration policy. But do it peacefully.

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860.686 - 870.16 J.D. Vance

If you assault a law enforcement officer, the Trump administration and the Department of Justice is going to prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law. And I wanted to show some support for these guys.

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870.815 - 893.084 Ben Shapiro

Now, again, when it comes to prosecuting people to the fullest extent of the law, the big story with regard to immigration over the past 24 hours is that now the DOJ is going after three people who essentially took over a church in the middle of a service in order to promote their immigration radicalism in violation of the FACE Act, which is an act that was designed to do two things.

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It was designed to prevent people from obstructing abortion facilities on the one hand, and also designed to prevent people from storming churches, essentially, and taking them over in the middle of services.

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According to NPR, a prominent civil rights attorney and at least two other people involved in an anti-immigration enforcement protest disrupting a service at a Minnesota church have now been arrested, according to Trump administration officials on Thursday.

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Attorney General Pambani announced the arrest of Nekima Levy Armstrong in a post on X. Again, all of that follows protesters entering the city's church in St. Paul, where a local official with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement serves as a pastor. And then Pambani later posted on X a second person had been arrested, followed by a third arrest announced by FBI Director Kash Patel.

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Now, as always, social media tomfoolery makes these things more ridiculous. Apparently, the White House posted a digitally altered image of one of the people who was arrested. In the original picture, she looks composed. In the White House image, she is apparently dramatically crying. Which is like, why? Why? Like, why? Who is doing this stupidity?

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And it's enough for the legacy media to make things up. You don't need people in the social media sphere for the White House making things up and making the job of the legacy media really a lot easier. That's really foolish. We'll get to what the church had to say, what its attorneys had to say about all this in a moment first. From Amazon MGM Studios comes Melania.

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Chapter 3: What are the controversies surrounding immigration enforcement in Minneapolis?

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Quote, the First Amendment does not allow premeditated plots or coordinated actions to violate the sanctity of a sanctuary, disrupt worship, and intimidate small children. There's no trespass to invade a sanctuary or to conspire to interrupt religious services.

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1102.652 - 1117.305 Ben Shapiro

The Constitution protects citizens from threats against fundamental rights by the government, but it also requires government to protect those same rights when they are jeopardized by private actors. And the director of litigation for True North Legal, a person named Doug Wardlaw, put out a statement very similarly, saying the U.S.

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Department of Justice acted decisively by arresting those who coordinated and carried out this terrible crime, which is to invade a church and terrorize worshipers. That is his quote. The arrest and the prosecutions to follow will help ensure mob aggression, like a city's church experienced, will not be repeated in any other house of worship. That is a good move by the Trump administration.

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Now, that doesn't mean that the people arrested aren't going to fib about it. One of the people arrested, as mentioned, was Nikima Levy Armstrong, a civil rights attorney. And here she was on CNN claiming that she was welcomed into the church. Well, I mean, under false auspices, as she then proceeds to explain.

1155.175 - 1182.965 Nikima Levy-Armstrong

We did not rush into that church. We actually went and sat down and participated in the service. And after the pastor prayed, that is when I stood up and asked him a question in response to his prayer. And then he responded to me. And then I proceeded to ask him about Pastor David Easterwood. And how is it possible for him to serve as both the pastor and the director of ICE for Minnesota?

1183.466 - 1198.294 Nikima Levy-Armstrong

And instead of responding to me, as soon as I said the name David Easterwood, the pastor says, shame, shame. And that is when I let us enchant justice for Renee Good and Hands Up, Don't Shoot.

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Okay, so... That, of course, is ridiculous. You don't get to go into somebody else's church and then if you wait for five minutes and then break out into a disruption of the church service. Call that permission to enter the church. That is not right.

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If you go into somebody's house claiming that you are, for example, a carpet salesperson and you want to check out the house, and the person invites you in, you proceed to steal all the crockery. Well, it turns out they didn't invite you in the house to steal the crockery. That is a ridiculous argument, and that one is not going to hold up in court.

Chapter 4: What are the legal boundaries regarding ICE's actions?

1985.527 - 1996.903 Jared Kushner

Thank you for not sharing that on the official White House account. We're deeply in their head. I think the affordability agenda appears to be, I'm living rent-free in the Trump administration's head.

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1997.744 - 2011.282 Ben Shapiro

Okay, so again, what he is doing is he is focusing all of his ire on Trump personally. And he's talking about how he lives free in Trump's head. And he talks about knee pads for Trump and all this kind of stuff because he doesn't want to talk policy. Because the minute the Democrats are forced to talk policy, they've got a problem.

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They have to lie and campaign as moderate Republicans or they have to go fully radical in order to entice their base. It'll be fascinating to see what they do. Now, again, does that mean that Republicans are going to fare better? I mean, not necessarily. They can also do a bunch of stupid things.

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I think, frankly, they do do many stupid things by promoting the worst aspects of what seem to me very often eminently reasonable policies. But there are some factors that are moving in a Republican direction if they can actually tell them properly. So, for example, the New York Times-Siena poll, the latest poll, shows that actually people are feeling better about the economy.

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If you take a look at people who believe that the economy is excellent or good versus the people who believe the economy is poor, right now about 29% of Americans believe the economy is excellent or good. About 38% believe that the economy is poor. That sounds bad until you realize that that is, in fact, The best number in over four years.

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That you have to go back before 2022 to get to a number even remotely like that. You have to go back all the way to 2019 probably to get a number that is better than that. So people are in fact feeling better about the economy. And that may redound to President Trump's benefit. That at least is going to be the hope. And the hope should be.

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that the administration's border policy starts to pay dividends, that people calm down about ICE, or that the Democrats continue to go out on a limb over ICE, and that there are some foreign policy wins that materialize sometime between now and the election. Now, speaking of foreign policy, there may be some major changes with regard to geopolitics over the course of the next few months.

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Begin in Cuba. According to the Wall Street Journal, emboldened by the U.S. ouster of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, the Trump administration is apparently searching for Cuban government insiders who can help cut a deal to push out the communist regime by the end of the year. According to people familiar with the matter, which, of course, would be. an astonishing event.

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If the communist regime in Cuba actually fell, that would be a game changer for a lot of Cuban Americans. It would be a game changer for the hemisphere. In the same way, that would be a game changer if the Maduro aster resulted in Venezuela eventually democratizing and becoming a non-enemy of the United States.

Chapter 5: How does the Biden administration's immigration policy affect local jurisdictions?

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Again, I thought it was overrated. Begonia, by maybe the most overrated director working today, or at least one of the five most overrated directors, Yorgos Lanthimos. Everything he does is obvious. Everything that he does is far left wing. Begonia is about a CEO, a pharmaceutical CEO, who was kidnapped by people who believe she's an alien.

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And spoiler alert, it goes exactly where you think it was going to go. One battle after another, which, as I say, was wildly overrated, and Sinners, which was nominated for 16 Academy Awards. So those are your Best Picture nominees. Kind of an underwhelming crew in a lot of ways. On the other hand, I'm not sure what I've seen this year that rises to that level.

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I'll give you better ratings once I've seen all of the movies. I try to make a habit of seeing movies before I actually rate them or talk about whether they're good or not. Alrighty, folks, coming up, we'll get to tennis players being asked about their politics. I'm not sure why that is happening, but it seems to be happening a lot. Remember, in order to watch, you have to be a member.

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