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The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2363 - Nancy Guthrie STILL Missing?!

06 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the latest updates on Nancy Guthrie's disappearance?

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Nancy Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie's mom, is still missing. We'll bring you all of the updates, plus the President of the United States at the National Prayer Breakfast and getting himself into hot water for a pretty awful truth social post. But did he even know what he was posting at the time? We'll get into all of it first. This is an excellent weekend to become a Daily Wire Plus member.

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66.164 - 81.65 Ben Shapiro

The nation awaits more updates on what is going on with Nancy Guthrie. That is Savannah Guthrie's mom. That is the biggest unfolding story in the country right now. The kidnapping of the 84-year-old mother of the TV star has, I think, set a lot of people on edge and for very good reason.

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Apparently, according to the New York Post, Nancy Guthrie's purported kidnappers claimed in a ransom note sent to TMZ that the 84-year-old TV host mom is safe but scared, and they know exactly what chilling demands are being made for her return.

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The note apparently was sent to TMZ two days after Guthrie's mom was reported missing and demanded millions in Bitcoin be turned over to avoid consequential repercussions. This, of course, is very scary stuff. Savannah Guthrie went on national media yesterday to plead with the kidnappers to release her mom. And obviously, it's an act of evil.

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There have been reports that neighbors had spotted some suspicious vehicles outside Nancy Guthrie's home earlier in the week, a van that was parked down the street. Here is Savannah Guthrie pleading for the release of her mom.

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Our mom is our heart and our home. She's 84 years old.

Chapter 2: What chilling demands were made in the ransom note?

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It's unthinkable, but it does happen. He said, obviously, that if you're a kidnapped 84-year-old person, then that is incredibly stressful medically, physiologically, psychologically. Whether the police are any closer is totally unclear at this point in time. The sheriff who's overseeing all of this, a guy named Chris Nanyos, he said they've gone through over 100 tips at this point.

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Are you flooded with tips? Are the phones ringing nonstop? We've probably gone through well over 100 tips.

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363.984 - 372.135 Savannah Guthrie

I don't want to discourage anybody. All tips. There's no tip too small. We want all that information.

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Nanyosi added that what had been described to him was a very disturbing scene. He said that the specific ransom note that they are taking very seriously, again, contained details about things at the house that were that were accurate.

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This one came to me in a text, and I read it, and it concerned me right away, where I thought, all right, I have a great search and rescue team, very robust. They do amazing things, but I felt like something didn't sound right to me. And so I advised them right then, you should be calling our homicide team. What did they say?

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You know, I can't get into that because it's part of the case, but they described to me a scene that just disturbed me.

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We'll bring you more updates. You can check all the updates over at the Daily Wire app where we have a podcast that is covering ongoing developments in the Nancy Guthrie case. We'll get to more on all this in just a moment.

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Chapter 3: How did Savannah Guthrie and her family respond to the kidnapping?

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Chapter 4: What role do neighbors play in the investigation of Nancy Guthrie's case?

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Just another reason you should go subscribe. She's bringing constant updates. Lyndon, thanks so much for the time.

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503.547 - 507.252 Lyndon Blake

Of course, Ben, a lot to get to on the sixth day of the search for Nancy Guthrie.

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So we have heard, obviously, that the first deadline in what police believe to be a real ransom note has passed. What is the next deadline? What sort of consequences were threatened, if any?

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518.465 - 539.68 Lyndon Blake

Yeah. So the next deadline is a big deadline. 5 p.m. Thursday, the first one, it's gone. The next one was Monday. And KGUN, one of the outlets that reported receiving the ransom note, they gave details on what it meant if that deadline wasn't met on Monday. And they said the note threatened to kill Nancy if payment for the millions of dollars in Bitcoin wasn't received by Monday.

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So again, those two stations in Arizona, the local news stations plus TMZ all got the same ransom note. That's new information that we learned during Thursday's press conference was the news outlets that got the ransom notes were the same.

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And again, it hasn't been authenticated as yes, the person that wrote this ransom note has Nancy, but this is a ransom note that the family has now addressed on camera twice. It's the one that the family is taking seriously and the FBI that's looking into the ransom notes and kind of heading up that part of the investigation is made it clear that they can advise the family on what to say.

572.825 - 592.127 Lyndon Blake

We saw Savannah reading off a script. We saw her brother on Thursday night reading off a script. But ultimately, it is up to the family to respond, to agree to make a payment if they want to continue to engage with this person, the author of the ransom note. So to me, that sticks out again as Savannah, who has

592.107 - 611.854 Lyndon Blake

The court TV background, the lawyer background is saying there is something in this ransom note. And I do not believe it was the Apple Watch and the floodlight that the sheriff and the FBI brought up as two things that were in the ransom note. I think there is more in that ransom note that is personal that the family is saying this seems legit. We're engaging.

Chapter 5: What insights do law enforcement officials have about the kidnapping?

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This is where we are now. And this is being fomented by the mayor of Minneapolis and by the governor of Minnesota and by a legacy media that treats basic law enforcement function as a crime that apparently not only requires observers to be there, but sometimes requires obstruction of law. And the person they're arresting was not particularly vague about his threats.

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Here's video of him threatening ICE.

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1096.682 - 1130.102 Cameron Guthrie

This is where ICE has come to die. I'm more than willing to keep the peace if they will go back to wherever they crawled out of and leave us alone. We want to know who they are. We will identify every single one of them and we will prosecute them to the full extent of the law. And if that has to be done at the barrel of a gun, then let us have a little fun.

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Obviously, this person is deranged, and when I say deranged, I think that you probably could have told that by his cross-dressing fetish that he was observing online. This is this person when he is not looking somewhat like a tattooed skinhead preparing to kill ICE members. For those who can't see, this is him wearing a cutout bra and short skirt and some sort of pornographic getup. As a man.

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So, yes, it turns out that we are when you heat up the temperature politically, the way that it has been heated up, you should not be surprised when it starts to overflow with the craziest people. And that is one thing that you are starting to see more and more these days. And again, some of this is being promoted openly by Democrats.

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So, for example, Bernie Sanders was asked just yesterday if it's illegal for people to invade churches to protest immigration law, which, of course, is the subject of the Don Lemon arrest, among other arrests. And here is Bernie Sanders basically refusing to say if it's illegal for people to do this.

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Can I ask you real quick what you think about Don Lemon's arrest?

1198.852 - 1199.914 Savannah Guthrie

Well, many statements on that.

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Do you think it was appropriate, though, for those protesters to be in the church? Is that a protected First Amendment right inside the church protesting? Absolutely.

Chapter 6: What is the significance of the ransom deadline in the investigation?

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And he gave what was, I think, a pretty amusing speech. A bunch of high-profile attendees, obviously, including the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, Interior Secretary, Doug Burgum, VA Secretary, DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, a bunch of other people. And the president... then proceeded to give a speech that was sort of religious in overtone.

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But one of the things about Trump that is fascinating is that he's been able to do things that a lot of Christians, conservatives, religious Jews like me, like, and he's been able to do a lot of those things while maintaining a largely secular coalition. If you take a look, for example, at the Republican Party coalition these days,

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This is a graphic of religious affiliation by party affiliation in 2023. It's right before Trump's reelection. This is from PRRI and the American Values Atlas. If you take a look at the religious constituency of the Republican Party, what you see is that in 2013, about 10% of people who identified as Republican were religiously unaffiliated. Today, that number is 12%.

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In 2013, the percentage of people who identified as Jewish in the Republican Party was 0%. Today, it's 2%. If you look at non-Christian, non-Christian was 0%. Now it's 2%. Those incremental increases in the non-religious party affiliation inside the

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The that increase that what would appear to be marginal increase in non-Christian affiliation inside the Republican Party is, in fact, not marginal because the the overall loss of sort of traditional religious constituency in the Republican Party is reflective of an overall loss of religiosity in the American public more generally.

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If you went back further, by the way, what you would see is a bigger slide that the vast majority of Republicans used to be religious. Today, the majority of Republicans are religious, but an increasing percentage are not particularly religious. And it is pretty religiously adverse. 30% of Republicans in 2023 were white evangelical Protestants.

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Another 20% were white mainline non-evangelical Protestants. About 17% were white Catholics. That number has not increased since 2013. About 3% were Latter-day Saints. That's actually a decrease of 1%. You've seen a fairly significant increase in Black and Hispanic Protestants. And then you've seen sort of the other category has grown a fair bit.

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Now, that doesn't mean that the Republican Party should somehow abandon the moral issues that make the Republican Party the Republican Party. That's not my case. My case is that making the Republican Party non-ecumenical as opposed to ecumenical is a mistake. And you've seen this sort of move being made on behalf of some parts of the sort of trad cath, right?

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some of the quasi-integralists on the right, who seem to be making a move to break up the Republican coalition by suggesting that there is a vast religious revival that is happening in the country that is going to drive Republicans to victory. Those numbers do not exist. By the way, I wish there were, okay? So don't get me wrong.

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