What happens when AI becomes smarter than humanity and are we ready for it?This episode is brought to you by NADclinic.com, the go-to destination for longevity and human performance. Check out their new NADair, a next-gen, precision breath-activated NAD⁺ wellness system using multi-patented DPI technology: https://nadairx.com/ The race toward Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is accelerating faster than most people realize. This conversation explores why some experts believe human-level AGI could arrive within just a few years and why the transition to superintelligence may happen even faster.Ben Goertzel and Kai Zen Bickle dive into the biggest questions surrounding AGI, recursive self-improvement, and the technological singularity. They debate whether AI should be centralized or decentralized, who should guide its development, and why today's decisions could shape humanity for generations.Rather than asking whether AGI can be built, the discussion focuses on how it should be built. The episode explores Beneficial General Intelligence (BGI), the importance of ethics, open collaboration, and why creating AI that serves humanity may be the most important challenge of our time.You can join the 19th Annual AGI Conference, taking place this July in San Francisco! Click the link to register: https://luma.com/AGI-26, and use code JULIAN20 for 20% off your ticket.About the GuestsBen Goertzel is an AI researcher, futurist, and CEO of SingularityNET and BGI Labs. Widely recognized as one of the pioneers of Artificial General Intelligence, he has spent more than two decades developing decentralized AI systems designed to benefit humanity.Kai Zen Bickle is a Chief Ethics Officer at BGI Labs, a multiple award-winning ethics advocate and host of The AGI Race. He works to promote the ethical development of AI, bringing together researchers, entrepreneurs, and policymakers to help ensure advanced AI is built to benefit humanity.What You’ll LearnAGI could arrive within yearsAGI, ASI, and singularity explainedWhy LLMs aren't enoughCentralized vs. decentralized AIAI ethics before intelligenceAGI's impact on longevity and workWhat Beneficial General Intelligence means⏱ Timestamps00:00 Intro00:10 Human-Level AGI Is Near02:50 AGI vs. Superintelligence03:33 Recursive Self-Improvement Explained11:34 The Singularity Explained13:30 AI Safety Is Failing17:48 Why We Can't Slow AI22:42 Why RSI Is Alarming26:45 Building AI for Humanity30:04 Can AI Become Conscious?35:18 The Case for Open AI39:10 Who Should Control AGI?43:26 The Longevity Super Pill50:11 The Purpose Problem55:42 What Is BGI?58:34 Every Voice Matters01:00:39 AI's Moral Constitution01:07:30 Why Decentralization Matters01:09:17 Does AI Have a Soul?01:13:03 Conscious Without a Soul?01:15:13 Could AI Destroy Humanity?01:18:34 Inside SingularityNET01:24:57 What Is OmegaClaw?01:27:37 BGI Architecture Explained01:30:54 If Tomorrow Was Your Last Day...Connect with BenWebsite: https://singularitynet.io/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bengoertzel X: https://x.com/bengoertzel Connect with KaiWebsite: https://singularitynet.io/ Connect with JulianInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebeyondtomorrowpodcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliankissa/ LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/julian-issa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com Email: [email protected] Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube for more stories from the edge of what is

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