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Ohio State Around the Shoe: All Jeremiah Smith talk on his stats explosion, Heisman chances & legacy
30 Mar 2026
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Chapter 1: What did Jeremiah Smith say in his post-practice interview?
Welcome back to Around the Shoe. On the Bill & Doug Show, Doug LaMaurice and Bill Landis joined by two outstanding members of the Ohio State Beat every Monday. Welcome to the first members of the Three Timers Club here on Around the Shoe. Andrew Gillis and Stephen Means from Cleveland.com. Andrew, congratulations. Thanks for being here.
You said we're going to get a certificate. I'm just waiting for that. I was only here for the prize.
Yeah.
Looking forward to that.
Yeah, we'll get the intern on that. Steven, thanks as always for being here. It's a Jeremiah Smith episode. If we had done a Jeremiah Smith episode and had not invited you, we would have justifiably heard about it.
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Chapter 2: How many catches per game should Jeremiah Smith average this season?
We'd have been fighting in the way.
And Bill is significantly larger than me, but on that day, I would have won. You're scrappy. You're scrappy.
Crazy beats tough. Crazy beats big.
That's true. People are very interested in who I'm going to fight next, and that would have been it. And it would have been Stephen rings. Stephen means bringing the heat to me. This is a Jeremiah Smith exclusive episode, which means we might do a little bit of that in there. How's that look, everybody? Hello, I'm Jeremiah Smith.
uh if you're listening on a podcast we have the jeremiah smith photo just hanging out there in the middle of the screen i don't we don't have to have it up there the whole time bill but i mean like come on right i mean that brings the eyeballs in doesn't it come on you're just proud of your photoshop work to remove the background from the picture i get it it is this is the this is the most advanced uh yeah graphic design i've ever done we are going to talk about jeremiah smith exclusively on this show because we get did get to speak with him for the first time since before the cotton bowl
on Saturday at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center.
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Chapter 3: Can Jeremiah Smith reach 4,000 career receiving yards?
We had Cortez Hankton, the receivers coach. We had Jeremiah Smith. And so guess what? If we're going to talk to the best receiver in college football, the best player in college football, maybe we are going to talk about the best receiver in college football. Five topics, five questions with Bill, with me, with Andrew, with Steven, Andrew Gillis. We will start with you. And the question is this.
We were all there. At Jeremiah Smith's interview on Saturday, what was the most interesting thing that he said? What caught your ear when you got this guy sitting down entering his third season of college football and you think, oh my goodness, Jeremiah, that was pretty interesting.
I really didn't want to go first for this one because I wanted to hear what everybody else had to say. But the one where you're taking your recorder, you're trying to listen intently and your head snaps up when he started talking about a certain program. And he said that at the end of the year, a certain program was going to come at me very hard.
He said, I'm not going to say any names, but I think we all know who that is.
Chapter 4: What does Jeremiah Smith need to do to win the Heisman Trophy?
And I don't know, maybe that was just only interesting to me, but just the fact that we live in this world where you mentioned that last time we talked to him was before the cotton bowl. And he said like, yeah, if Miami was in this position, maybe I would have been at Miami. You know, maybe if they had the program right, I would have been there.
And the next time we talked to him, he goes, well, essentially they tried and they didn't succeed. Because, Doug, I think you asked him the question before that, you know, was it ever a doubt that you were going to be here? He said, no, I was always going to be at Ohio State. But it's just it was kind of a Jeremiah Smith thing that, you know, we live in this world where, you know,
the best player in college football can be, you know, poked and prodded at. And that's a big deal for Ohio state. But it was just interesting to me that people could just almost like speak freely about this now. Right. In recruiting. I hear about this a lot where it's like, you know, kid will pull me aside or whatever.
And you know, Oh, I'm, you know, this kid's there, this school's trying or this coach is trying, but I'm telling them no. And,
Chapter 5: Is it possible for Jeremiah Smith to match DeVonta Smith's 23 touchdown catches?
You haven't signed pen to paper, so it's a little bit more excusable. This is just openly tampering. And like every program and every team, I guess, does this. But for him to say that, I just I went, whoa, he just kind of said he just kind of said it like, you know, he just admitted it out loud. So that was the one for me where I went like, whoa, like I he says a lot. I'm surprised that.
I will say, did you guys get on the old Twitter machine on Saturday then? There were some Miami folks who didn't love that. Like there was definitely like that.
Miami folks had something to say on the internet? Are you serious?
But I don't think he said it like in an inflammatory way. And he almost was like, well, I'm not going to say their name. But I mean, come on, what are we doing here? But, you know, there are... It's one of those things where...
Chapter 6: How does Jeremiah Smith's performance impact Ohio State's chances this season?
Like, this stuff happens, but then, like, there were Miami fans who almost, like, took offense at the implication of a thing that almost, like, is certainly true. But it's just, I don't know. Steven, you have, like, your, you know what I mean? Like, it's, like, they were mad, but it's, like, what are you mad about?
Yeah, it's... You were at Cleveland.com in 2010 when LeBron left Cleveland. Ironically, went to Miami. That's the trade-off. They got LeBron for four years. We get JJ for three years, and we're all good. It's... But the entire... Write down that story, ideal.
It's like, I know you're mad about LeBron. There's a preschooler right now that is going to even this all out. It's in here. It's in here.
Chapter 7: What are the implications of Jeremiah Smith's stats for his legacy?
I just didn't get to it before the Cotton Bowl. But I just...
it felt like the entire time lebron was down there in miami there was social media was it was what it is today but you could just feel the hurt yeah fans in cleveland and it just never went away and so and it felt like every time there was a chance to ask lebron about cleveland he got asked about cleveland and even if he gave the most obvious well no duh you tried to go get the best player in the world you would
feel Cleveland fans like stop talking us you didn't have to leave us you chose to leave and I am almost wondering what Jeremiah's relationship is with like Miami in general right now because well no duh Miami tried to come get the best player in the country imagine pairing that with Malachi Tony I mean, you said it on your own podcast.
Like, do you think Miami would be the favorite right now if they added Jeremiah Smith? Maybe. But it is interesting where he doesn't even have to say Miami's name. But Miami knows everything Jeremiah says. And so if it even feels like he's hinting at Miami, it becomes a thing. Yeah.
Which would be so ironic if the Dolphins end up with, like, the number two pick in the NFL draft next April and he goes home. But it's. Yeah. He didn't stay home.
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Chapter 8: How do the hosts predict Jeremiah Smith's future in college football?
Somehow Miami found out a way to be good anyway. And so now it isn't like, well, no, duh, you didn't stay home to Miami. It's a crapshoot. They're a good football program and you're here and they're going to let you hear about it every time they get a chance to let you hear about it.
And I almost wonder how he feels about that away from the microphones that like, yeah, he should be a hero down there. And now it feels like it's 50 50. You're a hero to some while we're others. You're the guy who's like a traitor, essentially.
Yeah.
It is interesting, and I think there maybe is a distinction here between Miami, the university, and the football program, and Miami, the community, and the city. And that, like, you know, there's certainly some of the reaction on Twitter was like, you know, the real Miami guys stay home and do this for the community and, like, do it for the state, do it for the city.
Which, Bill, if he was from Ohio and had gone to Miami and, like, all of this was in reverse, and he was like, well, you know what, that... That school in Scarlet and Gray was trying to come get me, but I was like, no, I'm not doing it. People in Ohio would be like, you left us. Keep our name. You can see it in reverse. Buckeyes fans would be mad, right?
Yeah, I think so. You feel scorned, and I think there's only kind of one way to react when that happens. All you guys have me thinking about now is what's going to happen when the Dolphins have the first pick in the draft next year and don't take Jeremiah because I need a quarterback. Yeah.
They're going to take a kid from Michigan and Dante Moore. They're going to be like, come on down, buddy. And everybody's going to be pissed.
Wow. Yeah. Cause I was trying to think like stink for Smith, junk it up for JJ, like whatever, like whatever the billboard should be in Miami this year to just blow it and be terrible. But they got Malik Willis. They don't, they don't, they're set. They just need to.
Oh, well maybe actually maybe. Yeah. I mean, if he's, they're going to pay him like he's a starter. So then maybe Jeremiah can go home. This will all be fine.
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