U R NEXT | 5. Super Spy
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Sergeant Ben Finley isn't the kind of guy who backs down easily, especially when he's on the trail of someone as dangerous as Vicious. It's around early spring 2014. Ben's been busy for weeks tracing all the homes and businesses that Vicious has swatted, all the people he's been terrorizing. Ben's convinced Vicious is a Canadian teenager. When he first contacted the Canadian police, he was hopeful that they could share information to help him build the case, maybe even work together with him in bringing Vicious to justice. But the Canadian authorities couldn't share any information. So who does this country cop who won't take no for an answer turn to next? Well, the FBI, of course.
I called the computer crimes unit down at the FBI in Atlanta. Hey guys, this is what I've got.
Ben eventually gets put through to an agent named Andrew Young. Andrew's been with the FBI for nearly 20 years. He's part of the FBI's cyber security program.
I picked up the phone and we began a conversation and set up a time to meet and discuss.
Sometimes phone doesn't get action.
Sometimes face-to-face gets action. And I'm an action kind of guy. I like to be the guy to make stuff happen. Quite frankly, he said he needed some help, right? Because the way our law enforcement system is designed here in the US, it's very hard for local jurisdictions at the city or county level to work across international borders. And so it's helpful to have the FBI who has the resources and the connectivity across all borders to kind of facilitate. So next week, he shows up in my office. We first met, and he's got this big box full of folders, lots of manila folders full of police records with different cities and jurisdictions on them. And he kind of walked me through what happened in Johns Creek, why he felt so passionate about this particular incident, reviewed all the files, and expressed to me why he felt like they were all linked together.
And, you know, he's not an emotional type, but he is passionate.
After Ben's done with his pitch, he stops for breath. He's waiting for Andrew to break down how the case is going to go from here, how the FBI is going to help him chase down this perp all the way to Canada and back again.
He goes, well, we can't really help until it's prolific.
And I said, well, I know what prolific means, Andrew, but what does it mean to the FBI? Is there a number or is there a type of incident? And he's like, I don't know. I was like, well, Andrew, if you don't know, how am I supposed to know? He goes, man, all I can tell you is just keep working. If anything changes, you got anything good, just let me know.
Ben is dejected and surprised by this latest setback. To him, Vicious is 100% prolific. The FBI dragging their feet only gives Vicious more opportunity to target young women, more opportunity to cause harm. But Ben uses this as fuel. Staying on Vicious' tracks, he manages to link him to a few more cases. Soon, the numbers are racking up.
10, 15, 20, 25.
Each time Ben reaches a new milestone, he calls Andrew back.
Probably, I don't know, five or six times.
But the answer is always the same.
I don't know if that's enough.
Finally, I still ain't calling you no more, Andrew. Shit. I know it's not your fault, but it's ridiculous. It's going to be only a matter of time before something bad happens. Someone is going to get hurt or die.
From Sony Music Entertainment and Novel, this is You Are Next.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:03–5:35
2
When did Sergeant Ben Finley first suspect Vicious and seek outside help?
5:35–8:07
3
Why did the Canadian authorities initially refuse to share information about Vicious?
8:07–10:14
4
How did Ben engage the FBI and what response did Agent Andrew Young give?
10:14–30:03
5
Who is Ava and how did she get targeted by Vicious on her streams?
30:03–39:37