Psaki: Trump may be too clueless to understand consequences of his shutdown

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Recorded04 Oct 2025

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Jen Psaki points out examples of Donald Trump not being aware of what his own administration is doing, or of the fallout of his own actions, raising questions about whether Trump understands the political consequences of the harm he is causing the American people with his shutdown of the federal government. Rep. Dan Goldman joins to discuss.Kat Abughazeleh, Illinois congressional candidate, talks with Jen Psaki about the violence and brutality ICE is inflicting on protesters and members of the media who are demanding greater transparency and humanity in the treatment of immigrant detainees. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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